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| Joe Bob |
Jun 22 2006, 11:19 PM
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Not getting any response on the shop talk forum....project is a blown Type 1 motor. It's a stroker 92/82 displacing 2180ccm and it has the Hideaway turbo kit from CB Performance with a HEI ignition. We put on a Megasquirt-II instead of the Delco ECU to get more tunability. Now I am looking for some pointers for the ignition table. Here is what I came up with so far. Please give me some feedback. (IMG:http://members.cox.net/3.6/images/spark.jpg) |
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| lapuwali |
Jun 23 2006, 04:53 PM
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Not another one! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
MS has a trigger offset value that you can set to anything you like, depending on where the trigger is statically timed wrt to TDC. The table values represent crank degrees with that offset value considered.
That's one thing about the software they get right. If you think of the most flexible, most sensible way to do it, they do it that way. The SDS way of a RPM/degrees "map" and another "retard degrees based on vacuum" makes sense to people who are used to distributors, since that's exactly how a vacuum distributor works. The 3D map that MS uses allows more flexibility. If, for example, you want more advance at cruise, and you cruise typically at 3000rpm, with a MAP of 60kPa, you can set that, but have less timing at 3000rpm under boost. Setting more retard under boost as SDS does will do the same, but it will pull the same amount of timing at 6000rpm as it does at 3000rpm, when you may actually want to pull less (or more). That said, more degrees of freedom means more ways of screwing something up, so the SDS philosophy isn't at all bad, just different. As to the values in the table, 46 degrees seems insane to me. Is this a hot street car, or a drag car, or what? |
"Z" More megasquirt questions.... Jun 22 2006, 11:19 PM
Mark Henry I get a headache just looking at that table :blink... Jun 23 2006, 07:58 AM
"Z" Half the fun of these cars is building something u... Jun 23 2006, 08:04 AM
DNHunt Mike
I've never tuned anything with forced in... Jun 23 2006, 08:27 AM
"Z" bump... Jun 23 2006, 04:23 PM
TimT I think you have way to much timing dialed in, als... Jun 23 2006, 04:35 PM
"Z" Hot street, with longevity in mind.... Jun 23 2006, 05:23 PM
"Z" Even with only 5lbs of boost it's pretty quick... Jun 23 2006, 05:26 PM
lapuwali I'd consider running a lot less timing, like 3... Jun 23 2006, 05:55 PM
"Z" Killed the starter....so I'm toast until Monda... Jun 23 2006, 10:15 PM
Brett W I am trying to read your settings. Change your bo... Jun 24 2006, 12:05 AM
Mark Henry Mike read this and email this guy, I know he'l... Jun 24 2006, 07:26 AM
ischmitz Mark, this is the table from Minami over on the Me... Jun 24 2006, 10:55 AM
Mueller I see Ingo still hangs out with Mikey, some people... Jun 24 2006, 11:13 AM
ischmitz :Qarl: Mueller OMG, that was the same year at Dun... Jun 24 2006, 01:35 PM
Brett W I am not used to the Megasquirt console yet. Sti... Jun 24 2006, 04:10 PM
Mark Henry Watch your head temps if you lean cruise....
On a... Jun 24 2006, 05:27 PM
Brett W Go out and try something. Take your 15-25% thrott... Jun 25 2006, 12:47 AM
"Z" He lives just down the street....can't avoid m... Jun 26 2006, 12:34 AM![]() ![]() |
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