 How do we beat TomP at Parade 07 ? |
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| Brad Roberts |
 Oct 6 2006, 12:33 PM
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914 Freak!  Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None  |
I like Tom. Great guy. Got to spend time with him while I lived in NorCal.. but it doesnt mean I'm going to lay down for him at an AutoX..LOL
I have the chassis and the LSD gearbox. I dont even have to drive (I'll put a SCCA National Champ in the seat if need be) What kind of HP/TQ will it take to beat him. I'm figuring the course is going to be VERY fast since it is being held here in SD. Thoughts on this? This will probably be my last "hurrah" with owning a 914 race car. The car is GUTTED. No windshield.. very little to NO steel in it. Goodyear R430's on 7's+8's. Full cage. It will end up with alum floor pans with small tubes. Shifter/seat/steering wheel. 3 gallon tank. B |
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| grantsfo |
Oct 8 2006, 09:49 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Put a 200 HP T4 in Andrew B's Smurf car. He is capable of beating Tom.
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| J P Stein |
Oct 8 2006, 11:07 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(grantsfo @ Oct 8 2006, 08:49 AM)  Put a 200 HP T4 in Andrew B's Smurf car. He is capable of beating Tom. I assume you've found this stuff ain't as easy as it seems. A car being "capable" and actually doing it are two different things. Robby: I remember being 2nd fastest 914 at the Shriners event. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Steve kilt me. That course was not a high speed course. The turns at this last Parade were faster than the longest straight at Mather.....top end of 3rd gear at the Parade. Comparing the 2, Mather was tight. Not to denigrate Steve's efforts there, but he was way off Tom's pace. A 59 to a 54 IIRC. Steve made up for it by blowing us all into the weeds at the "After Parade AX".....a tight course....ORPCA style....short on cones but tricky. You'da liked it. |
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| grantsfo |
Oct 8 2006, 08:12 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Oct 8 2006, 10:07 AM) I assume you've found this stuff ain't as easy as it seems. A car being "capable" and actually doing it are two different things. Actually I find it easier than it seems most of the time. I'm always overwhelmed when I see all those cones. When I get out and start driving I somehow put everything together. Andrew B has actually beaten Tom P' times on actual AX courses in Nor Cal. The Parade event was more like a short road course! So 200 HP would likely even playing field for posuer cross on a road course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But come on JP, AX rates up there with amature bowling if you take it too seriously. Why anyone would want to build a PCA Parade winning car is sort of pointless to me. Yeah you can do it, but why? |
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| J P Stein |
Oct 8 2006, 09:05 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(grantsfo @ Oct 8 2006, 07:12 PM) Actually I find it easier than it seems most of the time. I'm always overwhelmed when I see all those cones. When I get out and start driving I somehow put everything together. Andrew B has actually beaten Tom P' times on actual AX courses in Nor Cal. The Parade event was more like a short road course! So 200 HP would likely even playing field for posuer cross on a road course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But come on JP, AX rates up there with amature bowling if you take it too seriously. Why anyone would want to build a PCA Parade winning car is sort of pointless to me. Yeah you can do it, but why? Look at the first 3 runs. IIRC, Provasi had everybody by 2 sec. As for finding it easy. It is....right till ya get up into the top end of the field. If you can get within .5 sec of Andrew or Steve, then come back & tell me how easy it is. Then go to a National Tour event & do it in 3 runs. Serious? The guy that bought the Wayne Baker car ...Mistak(sp?)... laid out a Parade course on his own dime ...SD Parade I think, set up his trans for a top speed of over 130 mph and appropioate gears below and still didn't win. He took out the 4 & dropped in a 3.6L. I think that is what John is talking about. Top tier SCCA guys are as serious as a heart attack.... that's why they are top tier. Top line Pro Solo make gud money at it. Why?....why not?....you got sumthin' better to do? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| nebreitling |
Oct 8 2006, 09:42 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
QUOTE Top line Pro Solo make gud money at it. really? last time i looked, it seemed that at best they would break even on their travel costs and get a set of tires. |
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| jhadler |
Oct 8 2006, 10:09 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
QUOTE(nebreitling @ Oct 8 2006, 07:42 PM) QUOTE Top line Pro Solo make gud money at it. really? last time i looked, it seemed that at best they would break even on their travel costs and get a set of tires. Most folks can do okay if they win here and there. A few though, can do very well on the Solo Tour. Go back a number of years, and look at Mark Daddio... He more than paid for the car he won with, in one year.... And now look at the winnings he got from the Revitup tour... No, not everyone can clean up like that, but it _can_ happen. -Josh2 |
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