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post Oct 31 2006, 11:20 AM
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How do a 200hp 6 and a 200hp 4 drive compared to eachother. I know there are several ways to get 200hp out or either. I am interested in a daily driver 200hp 6 or 4. Does anybody have any dyno charts of these? Is the 6 more peaky? is the 4 more torquE? Type IV and Porsche 6 please.


I am not trying to start a flame war. I am just looking for information cause I found an empty spot in my brain, and I need to fill it before something else goes in there.
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post Nov 3 2006, 09:04 AM
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Comparing a used six cost to a rebuilt custom four isn't fair. There have been several BBS members who installed used sixes that didn't last long. A six rebuild isn't cheap-$10k+.

The 200hp kit 4 motors will fill the need for guys who want to stay witha four and not convert everything over to run a six.

Post this price list of the new parts to convert to a six. Brad posted 4 years ago a list that was $4.5k and prices have gone up since then. Not Swapmeet Louie prices, new.

I just think its great that there is this option now as 10 years ago a big 4 130hp that lasted 20k miles was big news.
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post Nov 3 2006, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Nov 3 2006, 07:04 AM) *

Comparing a used six cost to a rebuilt custom four isn't fair. There have been several BBS members who installed used sixes that didn't last long. A six rebuild isn't cheap-$10k+.

The 200hp kit 4 motors will fill the need for guys who want to stay witha four and not convert everything over to run a six.

Post this price list of the new parts to convert to a six. Brad posted 4 years ago a list that was $4.5k and prices have gone up since then. Not Swapmeet Louie prices, new.

I just think its great that there is this option now as 10 years ago a big 4 130hp that lasted 20k miles was big news.


Life isnt fair typically. And some of us use that to our advantage. Given the market glut of used sixes there is a market for cheap "Swap Meet Louie" six conversion parts. The same cant be said for big bore T4 parts. Six conversion parts dont come close to $4,500 if you shop around. ..and you might as well exclude upgraded clutch, fuel management systems, headers, oil coolers and linkages if your comparing cost of a big T4 conversion as you need to do those things when you convert from a stock T4 to a big T4 as well. So six conversion costs start to look very very attractive. Funny thing is you will never see somone post all the costs associated with a 200 HP T4 conversion.

When we get back to the original question of this post I just couldnt imagine a streetable 200 HP T4 option that would come close to cost effeciency or reliability of a 200 HP six. Asking how those engines would compare in terms of feel is tough to answer as each could be built with different charateristics. I know my 2341cc 911 E six is much differnt than other small bores - mine feels more like a torquey 4 than a high reving six. It makes gobs of power and torque from 2500 rpm to 6000 RPM and then it runs out of steam.
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914fan   6 vs 4   Oct 31 2006, 11:20 AM
porschecb   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popco...   Oct 31 2006, 11:26 AM
Racer Chris   Displacement makes a big difference. A 2 liter pr...   Oct 31 2006, 11:36 AM
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grantsfo   Lets be real T4 fans. A 200 HP T4 is a handfull a...   Nov 2 2006, 09:44 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, There you go again.. Getting out of line an...   Nov 2 2006, 10:00 PM
trekkor   It's not about sides. He said if he had ...   Nov 2 2006, 10:13 PM
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trekkor   There are some cool deals on E-bay right now. Lik...   Nov 3 2006, 12:15 AM
iamchappy   I like the six's better.. This ones going in m...   Nov 3 2006, 07:54 AM
Bleyseng   Comparing a used six cost to a rebuilt custom four...   Nov 3 2006, 09:04 AM
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trekkor   Jake, that sounds like fun. I seriously doubt anyo...   Nov 3 2006, 11:55 AM
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BMXerror   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:...   Nov 3 2006, 12:05 PM
trekkor   :popcorn:   Nov 3 2006, 12:23 PM
Joe Ricard   Does it have to be the same car? how about similar...   Nov 3 2006, 12:26 PM
iamchappy   The topic of this thread is 6vs4 right. I liked t...   Nov 3 2006, 12:42 PM
McMark   Trekkor has a car with four cylinder mounts still ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:44 PM
Matt Romanowski   Joe, The car should be the same. If the car is up...   Nov 3 2006, 12:45 PM
DNHunt   Seems like you caught me up on something similar. ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:45 PM
trekkor   My car would make a nice/perfect experiment platfo...   Nov 3 2006, 12:58 PM
anthony   The only issue I have with this debate is the misi...   Nov 3 2006, 01:14 PM
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iamchappy   Again I would like to bring back to everyones atte...   Nov 3 2006, 01:47 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, WTF are you referring to the TIV at larger ...   Nov 3 2006, 02:15 PM
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