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post Oct 31 2006, 11:20 AM
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How do a 200hp 6 and a 200hp 4 drive compared to eachother. I know there are several ways to get 200hp out or either. I am interested in a daily driver 200hp 6 or 4. Does anybody have any dyno charts of these? Is the 6 more peaky? is the 4 more torquE? Type IV and Porsche 6 please.


I am not trying to start a flame war. I am just looking for information cause I found an empty spot in my brain, and I need to fill it before something else goes in there.
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post Nov 3 2006, 01:14 PM
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The only issue I have with this debate is the misinformation campaign by the cheap six contingency. Those that ended up with a bum engine that needed a rebuild tend not to post in these threads.

A 2316 doesn't cost $15K. Sure a turnkey motor with all the goodies costs that much but for a fair comparision call Jerry Woods and ask how much a turnkey 911 six would cost from his shop. I bet it would easily be over $20K.

There is no secret on what the 2316 motor costs. All the prices are listed at Jake's store. $4800 for the kit, $200 for shipping, and you need a core motor. A decent header will cost you at least $600, $300 for a Mallory distributor, and $1100 for brand new Webers or about $1300 for an SDS fuel injection system or $500 for Megasquirt. I come up with $7,300 using SDS. Let's just say $8,000 with a few extras thrown in and that is for a brand new motor, brand new Webers or SDS injection, brand new clutch, and a brand new Mallory distributor.

If you go the six route, for $8K you get $4000 in conversion parts and you get a $4000 engine. $4000 buys a higher mileage 3.0L six with high mileage stock CIS injection. I think one would be pretty lucky to get out the door for $8K and not encouter any problems that cost extra.


Jake, if you want to upgrade my kit to a 200hp 2316 I'll be your 2316 west coast ambassador. I'll give every 914club member I meet at 914 breakfasts a ride to remember and I'll be at 10 autocrosses a year. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 3 2006, 01:40 PM
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The only issue I have with this debate is the misinformation campaign by the cheap six contingency. Those that ended up with a bum engine that needed a rebuild tend not to post in these threads.



How many 200 HP T4 owners do we have on the 914club forum aside from Jake? Nuf said. I'm brutally honest about my six conversion its certainly not wort free, but I didnt expect a $2000 engine to not have a few issues.

It would be interesting for you to track all your expenses in your mild 2270 T4 conversion project. My sense is you are underestimating your conversion costs. This has been billed as the cheap big bore and you got your kit on sale. When do you expect to have your motor built?

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914fan   6 vs 4   Oct 31 2006, 11:20 AM
porschecb   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popco...   Oct 31 2006, 11:26 AM
Racer Chris   Displacement makes a big difference. A 2 liter pr...   Oct 31 2006, 11:36 AM
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grantsfo   Lets be real T4 fans. A 200 HP T4 is a handfull a...   Nov 2 2006, 09:44 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, There you go again.. Getting out of line an...   Nov 2 2006, 10:00 PM
trekkor   It's not about sides. He said if he had ...   Nov 2 2006, 10:13 PM
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trekkor   There are some cool deals on E-bay right now. Lik...   Nov 3 2006, 12:15 AM
iamchappy   I like the six's better.. This ones going in m...   Nov 3 2006, 07:54 AM
Bleyseng   Comparing a used six cost to a rebuilt custom four...   Nov 3 2006, 09:04 AM
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trekkor   Jake, that sounds like fun. I seriously doubt anyo...   Nov 3 2006, 11:55 AM
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BMXerror   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:...   Nov 3 2006, 12:05 PM
trekkor   :popcorn:   Nov 3 2006, 12:23 PM
Joe Ricard   Does it have to be the same car? how about similar...   Nov 3 2006, 12:26 PM
iamchappy   The topic of this thread is 6vs4 right. I liked t...   Nov 3 2006, 12:42 PM
McMark   Trekkor has a car with four cylinder mounts still ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:44 PM
Matt Romanowski   Joe, The car should be the same. If the car is up...   Nov 3 2006, 12:45 PM
DNHunt   Seems like you caught me up on something similar. ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:45 PM
trekkor   My car would make a nice/perfect experiment platfo...   Nov 3 2006, 12:58 PM
anthony   The only issue I have with this debate is the misi...   Nov 3 2006, 01:14 PM
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iamchappy   Again I would like to bring back to everyones atte...   Nov 3 2006, 01:47 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, WTF are you referring to the TIV at larger ...   Nov 3 2006, 02:15 PM
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