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post Oct 31 2006, 11:20 AM
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How do a 200hp 6 and a 200hp 4 drive compared to eachother. I know there are several ways to get 200hp out or either. I am interested in a daily driver 200hp 6 or 4. Does anybody have any dyno charts of these? Is the 6 more peaky? is the 4 more torquE? Type IV and Porsche 6 please.


I am not trying to start a flame war. I am just looking for information cause I found an empty spot in my brain, and I need to fill it before something else goes in there.
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post Nov 3 2006, 02:15 PM
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Grant,
WTF are you referring to the TIV at larger displacement being a conversion???

There is no altered cooling system needed, no ALTERED MOUNTS, NO GRINDING, NO WELDING or any of the things that would be considered "conversion"....

You guys also act like at 200 HP these engines are about to explode at any minute..
Keep in mind that even an F prod 1832cc engine that makes 180+ HP at sub 13:1 CR will last a full SCCA season of 12 races at 45 minutes of duration...

Keep in mind that the 200HP figures we are making are being done with the same OR LOWER CR than a factory six cylinder engine, the percentage of modification isn't that great as we are only increasing displacement by 15% to effectively double the factory power ouput..

Let me see a six that has that amunt of modification to DOUBLE its ouput... How much does that fucker cost???

I like how everyone ignores my offer- guess you girls don't like the six as much as ypu seem..

Or you are scared that I'll embarass all of you in front of your buddies... It would suck to have your "Porsche engine" spanked by a VW engine developed in the backwoods of Georgia- I don't blame you..
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post Nov 3 2006, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Nov 3 2006, 12:15 PM) *

Grant,
WTF are you referring to the TIV at larger displacement being a conversion???

There is no altered cooling system needed, no ALTERED MOUNTS, NO GRINDING, NO WELDING or any of the things that would be considered "conversion"....

You guys also act like at 200 HP these engines are about to explode at any minute..
Keep in mind that even an F prod 1832cc engine that makes 180+ HP at sub 13:1 CR will last a full SCCA season of 12 races at 45 minutes of duration...

Keep in mind that the 200HP figures we are making are being done with the same OR LOWER CR than a factory six cylinder engine, the percentage of modification isn't that great as we are only increasing displacement by 15% to effectively double the factory power ouput..

Let me see a six that has that amunt of modification to DOUBLE its ouput... How much does that fucker cost???

I like how everyone ignores my offer- guess you girls don't like the six as much as ypu seem..

Or you are scared that I'll embarass all of you in front of your buddies... It would suck to have your "Porsche engine" spanked by a VW engine developed in the backwoods of Georgia- I don't blame you..


Jake, Lets be honest now. A big 200 hp T4 is a conversion. You must convert stock fuel delivery system, you must convert stock exhaust system, oil cooling system, stock ignition system, you must upgrade to a clutch that can handle the extra torque. Its a conversion.

If I use your criteria of conversion my six isnt a conversion either. I didnt grind anything, weld anything or alter mounts.

FYI, I get my butt kicked by T4 engines much less capable than your Hillbilly 4's every AX I attend so I think I'm fairly secure in the fact that I wont be embarrassed too badly. I'd love to see one of your engines but all I ever hear is talk.

I'd definitely take you up on the motor swap CHALLENGE. Just beware that once that motor was in my car I'd never come back and you would be stuck with a greasy old six!
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914fan   6 vs 4   Oct 31 2006, 11:20 AM
porschecb   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popco...   Oct 31 2006, 11:26 AM
Racer Chris   Displacement makes a big difference. A 2 liter pr...   Oct 31 2006, 11:36 AM
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grantsfo   Lets be real T4 fans. A 200 HP T4 is a handfull a...   Nov 2 2006, 09:44 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, There you go again.. Getting out of line an...   Nov 2 2006, 10:00 PM
trekkor   It's not about sides. He said if he had ...   Nov 2 2006, 10:13 PM
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trekkor   There are some cool deals on E-bay right now. Lik...   Nov 3 2006, 12:15 AM
iamchappy   I like the six's better.. This ones going in m...   Nov 3 2006, 07:54 AM
Bleyseng   Comparing a used six cost to a rebuilt custom four...   Nov 3 2006, 09:04 AM
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trekkor   Jake, that sounds like fun. I seriously doubt anyo...   Nov 3 2006, 11:55 AM
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BMXerror   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:...   Nov 3 2006, 12:05 PM
trekkor   :popcorn:   Nov 3 2006, 12:23 PM
Joe Ricard   Does it have to be the same car? how about similar...   Nov 3 2006, 12:26 PM
iamchappy   The topic of this thread is 6vs4 right. I liked t...   Nov 3 2006, 12:42 PM
McMark   Trekkor has a car with four cylinder mounts still ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:44 PM
Matt Romanowski   Joe, The car should be the same. If the car is up...   Nov 3 2006, 12:45 PM
DNHunt   Seems like you caught me up on something similar. ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:45 PM
trekkor   My car would make a nice/perfect experiment platfo...   Nov 3 2006, 12:58 PM
anthony   The only issue I have with this debate is the misi...   Nov 3 2006, 01:14 PM
grantsfo  
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iamchappy   Again I would like to bring back to everyones atte...   Nov 3 2006, 01:47 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, WTF are you referring to the TIV at larger ...   Nov 3 2006, 02:15 PM
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