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VaccaRabite
post Dec 26 2006, 06:51 PM
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So I went to Home Depot today, armed with some scratch and the will to buy an air compressor and a DA air sander.

HD sells the husky line. So, I went to the tools, found a DA sander (Husky, needed 4cfm @ 90psi, and the box said it would work continously with 20+ gallon compressors).

Then I walked over to look at compressors. They had a Husky 24 gallon compressor that flowed 5.1 cfm @ 90 pis on sale ($225). Score! but then, on top of the motor, was a little chart with reccomended tools and non-reccomneded tools. All sanders and DA sanders were non-reccomneded.

I called over a HD floor guy, who called over another 2 guys, and we could not see a good reason for the prohibition. But, we decided that if the factory did not reccomend it, then it should not be used as such, and I walked over to the electric tool section and bought an electric DA sander. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I am going to need to buy a compressor by the spring. I'm clearly in the "hobbiest" catagory, and may not use the tool again for a long time aftyer I am done with my 914, but when it comes time to paint, it will probably be cheaper for me to buy one then rent one - given the slow nature that I work. I want to know why the sander was not reccomended, when the compressor could flow the air and had a big enough tank according to the tool. I have theories, but I thought somone here might be able to give better advice.

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post Dec 27 2006, 01:20 PM
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not to be off subject. i stand corrected,i did a small search and i guess pvc can explode (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

STATE OF WASHINGTON
Department of
Labor & Industries

Hazard Alert
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 26, 1988


PVC pipe not to be used in compressed air systems

OLYMPIA -- The Department of Labor and Industries warned today that plastic polyvinyl chloride (PVC) pipe cannot be used in compressed air piping systems without the risk of explosion.

When PVC piping explodes, plastic shrapnel pieces are thrown in all directions.

"We're seeing more incidents of explosive failure, and we're citing more employers for using PVC air system piping," said Paul Merrill, senior safety inspector in L&I's Spokane office.

"It's probably just a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured in one of these explosions unless everyone pays more attention to the manufacturer's warnings," Merrill said.
Last year, a section of PVC pipe being used for compressed air exploded 27 feet above a warehouse floor. A fragment of the pipe flew 60 feet and embedded itself in a roll of paper. Fortunately, nobody was in the area at the time.
A PVC pipe explosion in a new plant in Selah broke an employee's nose and cut his face.

PVC piping buried 3 feet underground at a Yakima manufacturing plant exploded, opening up a crater approximately 4 feet deep by 3 feet across.

back to your question most paint guns that are not name brands (spendy) are chinese knock offs. i have four binks knock off in service for the last five years.and i will retire them after the the end of 06.with flawless service. as far as the compressors avoid the oiless ones there junk.
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Vacca Rabite   Air compressors - help?   Dec 26 2006, 06:51 PM
mikez   DAs take a LOT of air....I have the big MOFO.........   Dec 26 2006, 07:07 PM
computers4kids   DAs take a LOT of air....I have the big MOFO........   Dec 26 2006, 10:23 PM
Twystd1   Good DAs use a bunch of air.. Kinda like cutting ...   Dec 26 2006, 07:14 PM
PRS914-6   The problem with a $225.00 compressor is you ...   Dec 26 2006, 07:15 PM
Dr Evil   Dude, just get one for less $$$ at ...   Dec 26 2006, 07:37 PM
Vacca Rabite   I am limited power wise. I only have 110 going to...   Dec 26 2006, 08:14 PM
mikez   I am limited power wise. I only have 110 going t...   Dec 26 2006, 08:15 PM
Dr Evil   I am limited power wise. I only have 110 going t...   Dec 26 2006, 10:33 PM
Twystd1   Check to see what gauge wire you have coming into ...   Dec 26 2006, 08:53 PM
mikez   You can also she if you can fish bigger gauge thru...   Dec 26 2006, 09:03 PM
Brew   I smoked my Sears 5hp 22gal 6cfm @90 compressor DA...   Dec 26 2006, 09:47 PM
Twystd1   In the last month... I have aquired 2 commercial ...   Dec 26 2006, 10:13 PM
mikez   BTW....it IS good to have a dryer and a knockout p...   Dec 26 2006, 10:30 PM
Twystd1   And note the filters in the pic coming off the com...   Dec 26 2006, 10:34 PM
bernbomb914   most important is how loud are they. there is a bi...   Dec 26 2006, 10:48 PM
sww914   I've had a Husky 220 7hp 60 gal in my garage f...   Dec 26 2006, 10:51 PM
Twystd1   SWW914. I live in a mecca of chemicals. There is ...   Dec 27 2006, 01:40 AM
rick 918-S   The electric DA's work good also. Then you may...   Dec 26 2006, 10:56 PM
gfulcher   My compressor was built in 1946... not sure what ...   Dec 26 2006, 11:17 PM
PRS914-6   Another tid-bit to consider. If you can afford a ...   Dec 26 2006, 11:32 PM
Borderline   sww914: everything I've read says not to us...   Dec 27 2006, 12:02 AM
sww914   sww914: everything I've read says not to u...   Dec 27 2006, 12:57 AM
Twystd1   As a option for PVC. I just got done doing a who...   Dec 27 2006, 01:19 AM
morph   i use pvc to run all my air lines.(1/2 pvc is rate...   Dec 27 2006, 02:22 AM
Paul Illick   The reason that little compressor said it wasn...   Dec 27 2006, 04:34 AM
bmcwilli   What about PEX? Don't shoot me...I just have ...   Dec 27 2006, 08:56 AM
736conver   Another option for air compressors is a gasoline p...   Dec 27 2006, 09:17 AM
PRS914-6   Regarding the PVC.....First let me say, I would us...   Dec 27 2006, 09:35 AM
Borderline   :hijacked: Vacca: Sorry, I hijacked your thread...   Dec 27 2006, 10:09 AM
Vacca Rabite   No problem. I am reading and learning. Zach   Dec 27 2006, 10:35 AM
1bad914   Go here and ask questions about any garage subject...   Dec 27 2006, 10:51 AM
Vacca Rabite   Okay, so I am changing my focus here. I would lik...   Dec 27 2006, 11:44 AM
736conver   Okay, so I am changing my focus here. I would li...   Dec 27 2006, 04:56 PM
Vacca Rabite   words words words..... Zach Whats you budget? ...   Dec 27 2006, 09:16 PM
morph   not to be off subject. i stand corrected,i did a s...   Dec 27 2006, 01:20 PM
Matt Romanowski   For the most bang for the buck, look for something...   Dec 27 2006, 03:34 PM
jsteele22   Wow, a really great thread. I wish I had gotten t...   Dec 27 2006, 03:34 PM
orange914   1 get stand up not space consuming laydown style 2...   Dec 27 2006, 03:44 PM


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