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| grantsfo |
 Feb 6 2007, 07:35 PM
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I couldn't resist creating this anonymous poll! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| DanT |
Feb 6 2007, 07:40 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(grantsfo @ Feb 6 2007, 05:35 PM)  I wonder if you will get any responses Grant? An interesting poll considering all the discussions we have had lately about rules and classification... |
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| grantsfo |
Feb 6 2007, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Feb 6 2007, 05:40 PM) QUOTE(grantsfo @ Feb 6 2007, 05:35 PM) I wonder if you will get any responses Grant? An interesting poll considering all the discussions we have had lately about rules and classification... What's funny is I build pretty good relationships with mechanics who work on my car. I hear about all the stuff that goes unreported in our region. I have been encouraged not to report some of the modifcations on my car by several mechanics saying everyone does this. I refuse to knowingly under report modifications. I recently realized that last year I misclassified my car due to not properly classifying conversion (I started with 914/6 base rather than 1.8), but it wouldnt have changed my overall classification last year. I know in talking with many inexpereinced GGR particpants that they under report. Many people just class their car on base points when they infact have suspension or tire mods. I even know of a certain 997 driver who classed his car as a Boxster at an event last year! |
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| DanT |
Feb 6 2007, 09:54 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(grantsfo @ Feb 6 2007, 07:47 PM) QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Feb 6 2007, 05:40 PM) QUOTE(grantsfo @ Feb 6 2007, 05:35 PM) I wonder if you will get any responses Grant? An interesting poll considering all the discussions we have had lately about rules and classification... What's funny is I build pretty good relationships with mechanics who work on my car. I hear about all the stuff that goes unreported in our region. I have been encouraged not to report some of the modifcations on my car by several mechanics saying everyone does this. I refuse to knowingly under report modifications. I recently realized that last year I misclassified my car due to not properly classifying conversion (I started with 914/6 base rather than 1.8), but it wouldnt have changed my overall classification last year. I know in talking with many inexpereinced GGR particpants that they under report. Many people just class their car on base points when they infact have suspension or tire mods. I even know of a certain 997 driver who classed his car as a Boxster at an event last year! I know a guy with a '98 Boxster with a factory 996 (3.4L) conversion...car used to belong to a factory rep... the new owner knows about the motor but still classes the car as a stock 2.5L. He is a smart guy....doesnt he think anyone he has told about his car looks at the points? Go figure. Every mechanic in this area can tell you some pretty interesting stories. Especially from the late '80s and '90s. Even some local machinists have been known to tell you about some tricks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Problem with our current points system is that some folks are making an honest attempt to point their cars but there is so much interpretation out there that you can completely mis-class your car without really meaing to....like the engine swap/increase section. |
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grantsfo Do you cheat? Feb 6 2007, 07:35 PM
Crazyhippy nope, class me w/ the regular 2liters... :D Feb 6 2007, 07:42 PM drew365 I think you would get a lot of votes for:
I use c... Feb 6 2007, 08:30 PM
grantsfo
I think you would get a lot of votes for:
I use ... Feb 6 2007, 09:51 PM nine14cats Nope...no need to cheat for me...no amount of chea... Feb 6 2007, 08:31 PM SirAndy
Do you cheat?
not intentionally. takes the fun o... Feb 6 2007, 09:57 PM Andyrew naw.. just build a bad ass car, label it as ... Feb 6 2007, 10:12 PM nebreitling cheating at the club-level (especially AX/TT) seem... Feb 6 2007, 10:28 PM Dan (Almaden Valley)
cheating at the club-level (especially AX/TT) see... Feb 6 2007, 10:32 PM drew365
cheating at the club-level (especially AX/TT) see... Feb 7 2007, 07:20 PM Dan (Almaden Valley)
cheating at the club-level (especially AX/TT) se... Feb 7 2007, 07:38 PM nebreitling really? wow, that surprises and disappoints me. -... Feb 6 2007, 10:47 PM Dan (Almaden Valley) amazing what some folks will do and spend for a ... Feb 6 2007, 10:50 PM Chris Hamilton We don't cheat, we just might have a few thing... Feb 6 2007, 11:36 PM Dan (Almaden Valley)
We don't cheat, we just might have a few thin... Feb 6 2007, 11:40 PM Chris Hamilton
We don't cheat, we just might have a few thi... Feb 6 2007, 11:47 PM grantsfo
That would be breaking the NDA. :idea:
...ND... Feb 7 2007, 01:06 AM Randal
[quote name='Dan (Almaden Valley)' post='... Feb 7 2007, 11:53 AM nebreitling that makes sense to me. there are a lot of suspen... Feb 6 2007, 11:47 PM Dan (Almaden Valley) and that is exactly what is wrong with our current... Feb 7 2007, 12:05 AM grantsfo
too many loop holes when it comes to lightening.
... Feb 7 2007, 01:18 AM 914forme
too many loop holes when it comes to lightening.
... Feb 7 2007, 07:12 AM Matt Romanowski
really? wow, that surprises and disappoints me. ... Feb 7 2007, 10:27 AM nebreitling
so true :D -- but that's not flat-out lying... Feb 7 2007, 01:05 PM grantsfo
back to blyholder/hamilton, the little blue car ... Feb 7 2007, 03:05 PM Joe Ricard Do you think I run X prepared because I am dishone... Feb 7 2007, 10:53 AM alpha434 Guys.
Get some old pictures from famous race car... Feb 7 2007, 09:16 PM nebreitling at the end of the day, the fact remains that very ... Feb 7 2007, 09:50 PM 914forme
at the end of the day, the fact remains that very... Feb 20 2007, 12:30 PM sww914 When I built my car I built it to the rules. Later... Feb 7 2007, 11:17 PM Dan (Almaden Valley)
When I built my car I built it to the rules. Late... Feb 7 2007, 11:27 PM 914forme
that is the real problem a constantly moving targ... Feb 8 2007, 06:02 AM theol00 I read somewhere in a magazine where a few "o... Feb 12 2007, 11:18 AM BMXerror
really got a kick out of one "old" cha... Aug 15 2007, 01:13 PM J P Stein
If that's your attitude then you should go ... Aug 28 2007, 06:13 PM grantsfo
It's nice to think in black & white.
I t... Aug 28 2007, 07:49 PM J P Stein
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JP, I think your safe until SCCA starts testin... Aug 28 2007, 08:23 PM flesburg Racing is all about cheating.
There are more prod... Feb 13 2007, 07:33 PM DerekKim Heck yeah! PAX is for the slow kids like me... Feb 14 2007, 03:18 AM Rotten Robby Not intentionally... Mr. Baker pointed out that I ... Feb 14 2007, 10:25 AM grantsfo Anyone know what kind of additive they used?
http... Feb 15 2007, 10:31 PM Chris Hamilton
Anyone know what kind of additive they used?
htt... Feb 16 2007, 09:22 AM byndbad914
Anyone know what kind of additive they used?
htt... Feb 19 2007, 06:54 PM Brando When I was doing AX every other month with the riv... Mar 5 2007, 12:10 PM Dan (Almaden Valley) with my 2056 build with stock D-jet I could have c... Mar 5 2007, 01:47 PM grantsfo
with my 2056 build with stock D-jet I could have ... Mar 5 2007, 03:57 PM Dan (Almaden Valley) we should be pretty comparable
my car has Mahle c... Mar 5 2007, 04:39 PM Matt Meyer I generally abhor cheating.
But I will probably ... Mar 6 2007, 06:56 PM 914forme Matt don't worry about it, that Hyd. cam is do... Mar 6 2007, 07:33 PM Brando Kind of wierd, in some PCA regions/zones they don... Mar 8 2007, 01:07 AM Matt Meyer
Matt don't worry about it, that Hyd. cam is d... Mar 9 2007, 11:37 AM ppickerell Unfortunately the guy that built my motor is a con... Mar 13 2007, 09:08 PM 914wizard
Unfortunately the guy that built my motor is a co... Mar 13 2007, 09:40 PM JPB Cheating? If I do, you'll have to figure it o... Apr 8 2007, 08:10 AM Nicke Nilsson Icke sa Nicke....skulle inte falla mig in att fusk... Aug 15 2007, 10:23 AM Joe Ricard I had my car weighed several times with Truck scal... Aug 28 2007, 07:38 PM Joe Ricard If any of you watch F1 you might have noticed tha... Aug 29 2007, 06:27 AM hedfurst Good book by famous all around driver Mark Donahue... Aug 29 2007, 12:55 PM Brett W What point do you draw the line between "chea... Sep 4 2007, 08:36 PM Blood red 914-6gt If you wanted to cheat up here you will get caught... Sep 5 2007, 02:24 AM J P Stein
If you wanted to cheat up here you will get caugh... Sep 9 2007, 11:12 PM Blood red 914-6gt
If you wanted to cheat up here you will get caug... Sep 9 2007, 11:32 PM dinomium I remember a Side Glances from a few years ago tit... Mar 5 2008, 12:31 AM grantsfo
I remember a Side Glances from a few years ago ti... May 14 2008, 02:44 PM tesserra Nobody cares if you cheat unless you beat them or ... May 18 2008, 05:59 PM Phoenix 914-6GT
Nobody cares if you cheat unless you beat them or... May 19 2008, 04:11 PM koozy I don't cheat and I don't expect to win an... Sep 8 2008, 10:28 AM |
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