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> Targa Seal NOS - 3 available?, Ebay $400
kconway
post Apr 12 2007, 07:28 PM
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I thought I'd post this here so it would get more attention, all things considered sounds reaaonably priced. Auction says he's got 3. Wish I could afford it but I guess I'll bet on the come with AA's repro...

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post Apr 14 2007, 07:36 AM
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The fact of the matter is that you used the NLA tactic when you knew damn well that Porsche was releasing at least some recently. You also used the pay now tactic to get paid before the word got out, another verification that you knew that they were being released. Very shady in my book at the very least....

I did buy one for the pumped your price, I'm not happy about what I know now but I don't expect a refund.


Like Gint said it's not the money so much as the point that a fellow enthusiast would purposefully do this to another. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif)
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post Apr 14 2007, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(echocanyons @ Apr 14 2007, 05:36 AM) *

The fact of the matter is that you used the NLA tactic when you knew damn well that Porsche was releasing at least some recently. You also used the pay now tactic to get paid before the word got out, another verification that you knew that they were being released. Very shady in my book at the very least....

I did buy one for the pumped your price, I'm not happy about what I know now but I don't expect a refund.


Like Gint said it's not the money so much as the point that a fellow enthusiast would purposefully do this to another. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) 100%

This website (and others (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)) is like a family. After I purchased the seal, I immediately called a half dozen or so people, and offered the seal to them at the price I paid (before word got out about the new ones of course). I did not try and sell the seal to them for a profit. I tried to offer them (what i thought was) a good deal on a hard to find item. Little did I know I was being suckered by phrases like "Impossible to find new" and "Don't Miss this one". Reading your statement above, you had prior knowledge that more seals were being released, so I find your tactics disingenous, to say the least. And I do not think that is a slanderous statement. I am just stating what the facts are. You may not be a scammer, but you were deliberately misleading. Whether you made a profit or not, does not matter. You were still misleading members of our tight knit community.

And like stated above.......it's not the money, it's the tactic.
I try and live by integrity, and hope I never need to worry about bad karma, but to each his own.
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post Apr 15 2007, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Apr 14 2007, 07:20 PM) *

This website (and others (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)) is like a family. After I purchased the seal, I immediately called a half dozen or so people, and offered the seal to them at the price I paid (before word got out about the new ones of course). I did not try and sell the seal to them for a profit. I tried to offer them (what i thought was) a good deal on a hard to find item.
I try and live by integrity, and hope I never need to worry about bad karma, but to each his own.


Trojanman.....

Well, I guess you don't want to let this rest......and just want to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

I have explained the situation but you seem to just be a bitter person. As I stated earlier, I never advertised the seal on this forum but you keep implicating that I did. I betrayed nobody. If you look through my posts you will find I have posted a LOT of useful information, I have machined parts for other members here for dirt cheap (and free) and given many parts away for free to other members here. This crap makes me want to leave.

Perhaps you have a poor understanding of how e-Bay works. I checked your feedback. You have only a feedback score of 3, 1 negative with a failure to pay Perhaps you didn't like the price after you agreed to purchase it and then refused to pay. Nice guy.

You didn't pay for one item you purchased. and you only bought 4!!! The "buy it now" stops people like you that bid and then won't pay and another reason that most of my sales are done that way. Your feedback indicates you have never sold an item on e-Bay so perhaps you just don't understand the process. You list something that you want to sell. If people want to purchase something they can do so. It's voluntary. Most people make money when they sell. You only bid if you want it. I recommend you avoid e-Bay until you understand the system.

Unlike your score of 3, I have a 100% positive feedback with a 193 positive transactions so don't jump on my intergrity. Look at your own house....

This is my last post regarding this. It's not a forum issue, but an e-Bay issue and should not be beat to death here. Discussing it any further will not change anyone's mind.

Trojanman, Gint and Echocanyons are the 3 here who bought the seals on e-Bay and have cried foul here. I'm sorry if you are not satisfied with the price you agreed to pay. I'm willing to drop this guys, I ask you to do the same.

It's unproductive.
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post Apr 15 2007, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(PRS914-6 @ Apr 15 2007, 12:16 AM) *
This is my last post regarding this. It's not a forum issue, but an e-Bay issue and should not be beat to death here. Discussing it any further will not change anyone's mind.

Agreed. And I don't care to try.

I will say though that I basically agree with Garold and Anthony. But they nor you ever seemed to understand or address my primary concern. A little profit off of some hard to come by parts isn't really the issue. But that's OK. See my next comment...

QUOTE(PRS914-6 @ Apr 15 2007, 12:16 AM) *
Trojanman, Gint and Echocanyons are the 3 here who bought the seals on e-Bay and have cried foul here. I'm sorry if you are not satisfied with the price you agreed to pay. I'm willing to drop this guys, I ask you to do the same.

It's unproductive.

As I said, I'm not all that dissatisfied with the price. Again, that really never was the issue. And time has softened my position... somewhat. I'm over it and all done. You won't hear any more form me about it.

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kconway   Targa Seal NOS - 3 available?   Apr 12 2007, 07:28 PM
Gint   Looks like I'm an owner. I don't like tha...   Apr 12 2007, 07:52 PM
Rotten Robby   Looks like I'm an owner. I don't like th...   Apr 12 2007, 08:27 PM
Gint   Looks like I'm an owner. I don't like t...   Apr 13 2007, 10:16 PM
Rotten Robby   [quote name='Rotten Robby' post='887817' date='Ap...   Apr 14 2007, 07:09 PM
TROJANMAN   :idea:   Apr 12 2007, 08:00 PM
Gint   :idea: You could get a OEM seal in a package deal...   Apr 12 2007, 08:02 PM
skline   I just look at it and it had 3, by the time I hit ...   Apr 12 2007, 08:01 PM
Gint   I appreciate the feedback Robby. But I'm stil...   Apr 12 2007, 08:37 PM
Gint   I spoke too soon... Fair price for a rare item ...   Apr 12 2007, 08:41 PM
PRS914-6   I spoke too soon... Fair price for a rare item...   Apr 14 2007, 01:34 AM
Gint   Gint I don't think it's appropriate for an...   Apr 14 2007, 08:34 AM
rdauenhauer   :drooley:   Apr 12 2007, 08:46 PM
skline   All gone, that was fast! Like Vultures Hey ...   Apr 12 2007, 08:59 PM
echocanyons   Thanks for posting! mine is pretty beat and th...   Apr 12 2007, 09:20 PM
John   ....   Apr 13 2007, 12:32 PM
dflesburg   nope, just another rumor...   Apr 13 2007, 12:41 PM
rmital   1 more out there   Apr 13 2007, 12:50 PM
ppickerell   To all of you who bought these before I had a chan...   Apr 13 2007, 01:40 PM
echocanyons   Just confirmed these ARE available from porsche a...   Apr 13 2007, 02:01 PM
bd1308   Just confirmed these ARE available from porsche ...   Apr 13 2007, 02:10 PM
spunone   YEAH whats the part # and I'll give the Local ...   Apr 13 2007, 02:15 PM
echocanyons   >74 style is 91456303910   Apr 13 2007, 02:16 PM
TROJANMAN   :idea:   Apr 13 2007, 02:52 PM
rmital   just got off the phone with: Jack Daniels Porsche ...   Apr 13 2007, 02:57 PM
TROJANMAN   very cool. no wonder the guy on ebay wanted instan...   Apr 13 2007, 03:02 PM
ChrisNPDrider   Is this the end of an era??!?! :beer2: N...   Apr 13 2007, 03:16 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   they are! Look in the member vendor section...   Apr 13 2007, 03:58 PM
echocanyons   210 from AA what a deal!   Apr 13 2007, 03:59 PM
anthony   210 from AA what a deal! How do you get on...   Apr 14 2007, 06:09 PM
John   Sorry bro, but it appears as if some saw my earlie...   Apr 13 2007, 06:39 PM
will   just called my local dealer and they are available...   Apr 13 2007, 08:42 PM
dflesburg   Yeah, less than 50 available right now in the US a...   Apr 13 2007, 09:47 PM
kconway   Sorry guys...I have no affiliation with this selle...   Apr 13 2007, 10:42 PM
Gint   Hey man, it's not your fault. He obviously pi...   Apr 13 2007, 10:47 PM
TROJANMAN   He obviously picked up as many as he could afford...   Apr 14 2007, 12:08 AM
kconway   There are several others that have popped up on ev...   Apr 13 2007, 10:52 PM
echocanyons   The fact of the matter is that you used the NLA ta...   Apr 14 2007, 07:36 AM
TROJANMAN   The fact of the matter is that you used the NLA t...   Apr 14 2007, 08:20 PM
PRS914-6   This website (and others :rolleyes:) is like a fa...   Apr 15 2007, 01:16 AM
Gint   This is my last post regarding this. It's not...   Apr 15 2007, 07:58 AM
Tobra   Maybe I will deal with the local dealer on this on...   Apr 14 2007, 08:43 AM
smontanaro   Part Pricer lists two part numbers, 914 563 035 10...   Apr 14 2007, 09:32 AM
SLITS   Part Pricer lists two part numbers, 914 563 035 1...   Apr 14 2007, 09:51 AM
736conver   I was wondering what happen to your order. That...   Apr 14 2007, 09:57 AM
PRS914-6   BTW .... The order I placed over one year ago, wi...   Apr 14 2007, 07:11 PM
Headrage   Part Pricer lists two part numbers, 914 563 035 1...   Apr 14 2007, 09:54 AM
SLITS   Part Pricer lists two part numbers, 914 563 035 ...   Apr 14 2007, 10:00 AM
skline   [quote name='Headrage' post='888444' date='Apr 14...   Apr 14 2007, 10:03 AM
Headrage   I had 40 seals on order and didn't get notifi...   Apr 14 2007, 09:55 AM
SLITS   Scott .... The one on eBay is not mine. I was ask...   Apr 14 2007, 10:06 AM
sixnotfour   special 914world deal , members vendors area, talk...   Apr 14 2007, 06:13 PM
anthony   I think you guys are way out of line. Some member ...   Apr 14 2007, 10:39 PM
TROJANMAN   You are also begrudging this guy for making a lit...   Apr 14 2007, 11:26 PM
Garold Shaffer   I think you guys are way out of line. Some member...   Apr 14 2007, 11:30 PM
TROJANMAN   Bitter Person? :lol: Hardly Nobody ever said yo...   Apr 15 2007, 08:37 AM
Lawrence   Paul, You wrote: I would like you to try and u...   Apr 15 2007, 08:59 AM
Tobra   If you're man enough to make money in a way ...   Apr 15 2007, 10:26 AM
Headrage   I sent a PM to George right after he posted that t...   Apr 15 2007, 10:40 AM
TROJANMAN   I sent a PM to George right after he posted that ...   Apr 15 2007, 10:48 AM
Paul Illick   I have one I'll sell you for $400 :D ...   Apr 16 2007, 07:35 AM
neo914-6   I sent a PM to George right after he posted that ...   Apr 15 2007, 10:59 AM
Headrage   I sent a PM to George right after he posted that...   Apr 15 2007, 10:49 AM
TROJANMAN   But wait, there's more.............Let me tell...   Apr 15 2007, 10:52 AM
Garold Shaffer   But wait, there's more.............Let me tel...   Apr 15 2007, 11:12 AM
SirAndy   you paid $400 for a seal that the week befor...   Apr 15 2007, 04:02 PM
Tobra   I called them on the phone and ordered it. I woul...   Apr 15 2007, 10:59 AM
TROJANMAN   Garold, I'm really not upset, and just laughi...   Apr 15 2007, 11:17 AM
Rotten Robby   Really guys, I am not kidding you. Paul is a very ...   Apr 16 2007, 12:01 AM
SLITS   FYI .... just a note from the shit-stirrer ..... ...   Apr 16 2007, 07:51 AM
shelby/914   Just ordered one from AA a few minutes ago at ...   Apr 16 2007, 09:34 AM
736conver   More info. I place my seal on backorder back in Ma...   Apr 16 2007, 09:40 AM
eric914   I also had one on order with Mittlemotor for ...   Apr 16 2007, 02:04 PM
KenH   Just bought one from my local Porsche dealer - ...   Apr 16 2007, 03:51 PM
KenH   FYI - Porsche announced in Feb. that they would ha...   Apr 16 2007, 03:53 PM
SLITS   FYI - Porsche announced in Feb. that they would h...   Apr 16 2007, 05:45 PM
KenH   FYI - Porsche announced in Feb. that they would ...   Apr 16 2007, 07:38 PM
kconway   Does anybody actually have any of these in hand af...   Apr 16 2007, 05:34 PM
SLITS   AND AA is running an eBay auction for 30 seals wi...   Apr 16 2007, 06:25 PM
NoEcm   [b][size=5]AND AA is running an eBay auction for...   Apr 16 2007, 07:01 PM
spunone   We do of course   Apr 16 2007, 06:26 PM
spunone   So Ron when you run down to the Porsche Dealer off...   Apr 16 2007, 06:34 PM
Midtowner   Just got back from Stevens Creek Porsche. Chris...   Apr 16 2007, 06:45 PM
PRS914-6   Just got back from Stevens Creek Porsche. Chri...   Apr 16 2007, 07:44 PM
Midtowner   Just got back from Stevens Creek Porsche. Chr...   Apr 16 2007, 08:10 PM
TROJANMAN   I just saw this add in the classifieds here. Look...   Apr 16 2007, 11:00 PM
Midtowner   Just placed an order with AA. Second shipment of ...   Apr 17 2007, 11:34 AM
majkos   :popcorn:   Apr 17 2007, 11:50 AM
skline   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:   Apr 17 2007, 01:36 PM
Garold Shaffer   I just saw this add in the classifieds here. Loo...   Apr 17 2007, 01:55 PM
bd1308   I think this is VERY good new for the 914.... see...   Apr 17 2007, 02:00 PM
Series9   Liz and I just got back from the dealer where we o...   Apr 17 2007, 02:10 PM
Aaron Cox   im going to play devils advocate here. --my view...   Apr 17 2007, 05:31 PM
TROJANMAN   he coulda just shown a pic of what he had for sal...   Apr 17 2007, 05:57 PM
Aaron Cox   he coulda just shown a pic of what he had for sa...   Apr 17 2007, 08:24 PM
ppickerell   My dealer now says there is a hiccup.   Apr 17 2007, 08:22 PM
TROJANMAN   2 for 1? :confused: I could have bought 2 at a F...   Apr 17 2007, 08:33 PM
Aaron Cox   again, just playing devils advocate :) my bad - ...   Apr 17 2007, 08:39 PM
TROJANMAN   again, just playing devils advocate :) my bad - i...   Apr 17 2007, 08:52 PM
boxstr   My 10 seals arrived at the Porsche dealer today, I...   Apr 17 2007, 09:00 PM


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