914 Event Car Judging, let's hear your thoughts Options

[McMark]

I've been thinking, for awhile now, that it might be nice to have persistent classes for car judging at events. Something that would allow any 914 event to have instant organization for that part of their planning and allow a more broad comparison of cars from one event to the next.

For example, at the WCR we had the following classes:

Best 914/6 - This includes factory cars as well as conversion cars which use a Porsche flat 6 engine. The winner should be judged on the overall cleanliness and quality of their car. Any aftermarket/custom parts would be a detraction from cars in this category.

Best 914/4 - This category is for cars equipped with a Type IV motor. The winner should be judged on the overall cleanliness and quality of their car. Any aftermarket/custom parts would be a detraction from cars in this category.

Best Conversion Car - This category is for cars equipped with any motor not already listed. The winner should be judged on the overall cleanliness and quality of their car. Any aftermarket/custom parts would be a detraction from cars in this category.

Best Custom Car - This is where the wings, fancy wheels, and custom stitched interiors come into play.

RatRod - The winner in this category has the... um... least aesthetics but still runs and drives. No shame in winning here.

What I'm interested in first and foremost, is would you like to see the same categories from event to event, or are things fine the way they are?

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

In theory, ConeDodgers' classification approaches PCAs' categories. Certainly workable.

The minefield that we will be entering here will be how to deduct points for un-originality. Does an aftermarket s/w lose points as much as a 4 cyl carb system? Will a 914 with a CD player lose more or less points than a car with an A/M muffler? Does a 5 bolt conversion on a 4 cyl offset a 914 with 911 paint on it? How many points are lost with a Scheel seat.....the same point loss as 195/60 tires? When does (dirty/rusty/worn) originality trump a fresh/pristine/"improved" restoration.

I think if you play hardball with originality, with all the "improved" cars that I've seen on this site and at a club event, there could be a lot of sore and unhappy people. Scoring for all the upgrades on these cars could get very confusing and cumbersome.

I think a further categorization would be an "improved" class, permitting PORSCHE factory upgrades that could include 5 bolt hub upgrades, tires that fit within stock fenders, Euro lenses, OEM wheel, etc.

This won't be easy.

Paul

[ConeDodger]

In theory, ConeDodgers' classification approaches PCAs' categories. Certainly workable.

The minefield that we will be entering here will be how to deduct points for un-originality. Does an aftermarket s/w lose points as much as a 4 cyl carb system? Will a 914 with a CD player lose more or less points than a car with an A/M muffler? Does a 5 bolt conversion on a 4 cyl offset a 914 with 911 paint on it? How many points are lost with a Scheel seat.....the same point loss as 195/60 tires? When does (dirty/rusty/worn) originality trump a fresh/pristine/"improved" restoration.

I think if you play hardball with originality, with all the "improved" cars that I've seen on this site and at a club event, there could be a lot of sore and unhappy people. Scoring for all the upgrades on these cars could get very confusing and cumbersome.

I think a further categorization would be an "improved" class, permitting PORSCHE factory upgrades that could include 5 bolt hub upgrades, tires that fit within stock fenders, Euro lenses, OEM wheel, etc.

This won't be easy.

Paul

I think the real difference between what I have proposed and what the PCA does is that we don't have no stinkin' uptight judges with white gloves looking for hair in the carpet... Use the classes but still make it a people's choice event.