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> OT: Which Air filter do you prefer for my 2005 Pathfinder?, K&N or FRAM?
abc123
post Jul 26 2007, 06:10 PM
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Which type of air filter do you guys prefer for my moms brand new 2005 Nissan Pathfinder. A k&n or Fram??



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post Jul 27 2007, 11:27 AM
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I put a K&N in all of my cars. Why? It's not so I can get an extra 90 HP for $50.00. It's because paper filters are $12.00-$20.00, for the price of 3 I can get a K&N and never have to buy another filter. I haven't had any problems with them, ever.
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post Jul 27 2007, 12:03 PM
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I put a K&N in all of my cars. Why? It's not so I can get an extra 90 HP for $50.00. It's because paper filters are $12.00-$20.00, for the price of 3 I can get a K&N and never have to buy another filter. I haven't had any problems with them, ever.


In yet another edition of my anti-K&N marketing rant, I beg to differ with you. There's a TON of information available describing actual scientific tests, performed on real test equipment, done with controls, that show little or no HP improvement vs. stock paper filters. The number of square inches of filter media is FAR fewer in a K&N, the pores are larger, and they depend on proper, frequent cleaning and oiling to maintain even the most remote resemblance to the effectiveness of stock filtration. Think of it. Less filter area, more air flow. How do they achieve that? BIGGER PORES in the material! TANSTAAFL. YOU may think you have more power, but it's more likely to be the combination of a lighter wallet, justification for the expenditure, and an increased noise level. Hey, if it's louder, it has to be faster/more powerful, right?

I once counted the pleats in a stock 2 litre paper air filter, and extrapolated the square inches. Did the same for the K&N. I forget the exact numbers, but the paper filter had something over TWICE the filter area. If I had both here again, I'd refigure the numbers and write it up. Maybe someone would like to help out, here, and figure it out for a K&N. I'll do the stock unit and we can get a figure. Volunteers?

Last, but certainly not least, while you're painstakingly (and properly) cleaning and servicing your K&N, I've dropped in a new OE filter and have about a half hour to relax and enjoy a couple of adult beverages with my friends. The Cap'n
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post Jul 27 2007, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 27 2007, 11:03 AM) *

TANSTAAFL.

"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch," That was a new one for me, I had to use the google to figger it out....


I always looked at it like this, could K&N's engineering budget and resources even be in the same ballpark as BMW, Porsche, Honda, etc... I doubt it.

I take my wifes 4runner to an independent pro for service. He scolded me for using a Fram air filter and told me to only use Toyotas products.
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abc123   OT: Which Air filter do you prefer for my 2005 Pathfinder?   Jul 26 2007, 06:10 PM
abc123   I need 15 more hp its worth it with an intake so w...   Jul 26 2007, 06:19 PM
914nerd   Edited so as to prevent the propagation of the fla...   Jul 26 2007, 06:22 PM
abc123   THIS ONE ISN'T A JOKE I'M SERIOUS???????...   Jul 26 2007, 06:26 PM
geniusanthony   I was really hoping that if we ignored "THE O...   Jul 26 2007, 06:34 PM
Dr. Roger   K&N BABY!!! edited: =)   Jul 26 2007, 06:35 PM
Cap'n Krusty   That's like asking whether you'd prefer lo...   Jul 26 2007, 06:35 PM
Johny Blackstain   That's like asking whether you'd prefer l...   Jul 26 2007, 06:45 PM
DrifterJay   what Johny said... lol   Jul 26 2007, 06:50 PM
914nerd   I simply was commenting on the fact that his origi...   Jul 26 2007, 07:09 PM
blitZ   I have a Pathfinder also, but post my related ques...   Jul 26 2007, 07:11 PM
D1A3   I have a Pathfinder also, but post my related que...   Jul 26 2007, 10:04 PM
blitZ   [quote name='blitZ' post='928532' date='Jul 26 20...   Jul 27 2007, 06:21 AM
JmuRiz   Personally I don't believe anything like an ai...   Jul 27 2007, 11:07 AM
sww914   I put a K&N in all of my cars. Why? It's n...   Jul 27 2007, 11:27 AM
Cap'n Krusty   I put a K&N in all of my cars. Why? It's ...   Jul 27 2007, 12:03 PM
jasons   TANSTAAFL. "There Ain't No Such Thin...   Jul 27 2007, 12:12 PM
blitZ   I used an Apexi filter as it actually does a good ...   Jul 27 2007, 11:56 AM
Cap'n Krusty   "I always looked at it like this, could K...   Jul 27 2007, 12:45 PM
sww914   Cap'n, I said that it's NOT for HP that I ...   Jul 27 2007, 06:14 PM


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