Suspension Tuning Setup Advice Needed..., went from a swinger to a plow... Options

[cha914]

Ok, did the first autox with the new suspension on sunday, and I wasn't overly impressed with the results, but since I changed almost everything, I cant realy expect to have it right the first time.

So here goes, the car had very sluggish turn-in responce, and wanted to plow through every corner. I really couldn't even get it to rotate under trail braking. Here is the setup:

Koni Yellows all around
Poly bushings all around
Fully adj rear perches w/175lb springs
22mm solid torsion bars
22mm weltmeister front bar set full soft

Ride height = 4.75 up front and ~5.25 rear (measured to the donuts)
Camber = -1.5 up front -2 rear
Toe = 1/16th toe OUT up front and 1/16th toe IN rear

With the Koni's set to full hard the car seemed to improve a little, but not much. Also, the course was on a fairly slick parking lot, and I am running 2year old pirelli tires (205/50/15s with plenty of tread, just hard).

Finally, I want this car setup mostly for track driving, so I know autox performance is going to suffer some, but it seemed pretty poor overall yesterday (it was definately more fun with the ass up in the air sliding everywhere (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) now I want it to be fast)

Any suggestions on where to go from here, or what to try in the future (I know I need better tires).

Tony (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

[cha914]

Thanks for all the replys guys! To answer a few questions: No LSD (I want one, but now your talking Big $$$), No rear bar, I bought the 22mm bars long before I knew any better and decided to throw them in to see what happened, the car came with the 22mm welt sway bar so I kept it, I put on the new rear springs and all the shocks and bushings.

I didn't mess with tire pressures at the event cause as was stated earlier "they are slicker than snot on a door knob" and I wanted to play with the koni's and not the tires.

My first few runs I ran with the koni's full soft, just to get a baseline, then I ran them full hard and got my best time of the day. Then I tried running the front full soft and the rear hard, and I thought the car felt squirly, but its probably just my driving. After watching the fast cars, I think I was over driving the course for the most part, definately over driving the limits of the crappy tires.

I realy want the car to be setup for the road course, Autox is fun, but the local club still doesn't have a good lot and their organization sucks...and driving 1-2 hours for 10min of seat time isn't my idea of a great ratio. I have to drive at least that or more to get to a track, but at least I will get a few hours of time.

Anyway, I will put those tires on the christmas list, and after I get those I will look into bigger springs and/or smaller torsions and/or a rear bar ... and hopefully by the end of next year, I can afford some of mullers rollerbearings (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

Thanks again,

Tony