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| IronHillRestorations |
 Sep 30 2007, 09:21 AM
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I. I. R. C.  Group: Members Posts: 6,813 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None 
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So am I a bad guy for outing a ripoff, if the guy doing the ripping is popular here?
There are least two products that I know of, what or who is next? Do I spill the beans? I remember not too long ago, no one, NO ONE could say a bad word about Bradholio, without being chastised. I don't want to be shunned for shedding the light here, but this stuff makes me mad! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Sep 30 2007, 01:16 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,813 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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Ok, I've communicated with the person who ORIGINALLY developed the product, Ed Villela; and he's not happy about this.
Funny thing is that Ed traded one of his rear trunk shock kits, for a Euro turnsignal kit, which was (unbeknownst to Ed) ripped off of Rich Johnson's Euro turnsignal kit, that he came up with about eleven years ago (or more). Several weeks later Ed sees his strut kit sold as the "original" rear lid kit. Product ring a bell with anyone? So I order a rear lid kit from Camp914, half curious to see for myself, and also because Ed's pretty much thrown his hands up in disgust and let his interest in continuing to sell these lapse. To my total shock, here's Craig's "original" rear lid strut kit, WITH ED VILLELA'S PHOTO COPIED INSTRUCTIONS!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) It even has Ed's "ECV2000" right on it. Points made by JP and Eric are well taken. Eric, I wasn't taking a potshot at the Admins as a group or individually. It's my hope that the situation with the prior website, will prevent any sort of similar situation. Surely ou must acknowledge the validity of the point however. JP is spot on with his points regarding business practices, etc. Taking someone else's product, calling it your own, and using their exact printed word is wrong. I won't duck behind the couch either! |
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9146986 Outing a ripoff Sep 30 2007, 09:21 AM
markb If someone were about to rip me off, I'd want ... Sep 30 2007, 09:41 AM Dr Evil So long as you state facts and not opinion I see n... Sep 30 2007, 09:43 AM
So.Cal.914
So long as you state facts and not opinion I see ... Sep 30 2007, 10:02 AM ConeDodger
So long as you state facts and not opinion I see... Sep 30 2007, 10:29 AM Pat Garvey
[quote name='So.Cal.914' post='951655' date='Sep ... Sep 30 2007, 07:59 PM jimtab
[quote name='So.Cal.914' post='951655' date='Sep... Sep 30 2007, 08:48 PM lotus_65 you can't resolve i privately?
it's been ... Sep 30 2007, 09:45 AM SLITS Send he/she/it a private message expressing your f... Sep 30 2007, 10:40 AM 9146986 Same exact product. Photocopies of the exact same... Sep 30 2007, 10:40 AM ConeDodger
Same exact product. Photocopies of the exact sam... Sep 30 2007, 10:44 AM cooltimes PK,
When you have to ask before telling what you b... Sep 30 2007, 10:44 AM BMXerror I think you have to say what you have to say. This... Sep 30 2007, 11:11 AM Bass Fisher Why ask us? It's a free world. Post it and let... Sep 30 2007, 11:19 AM Rusty
Why ask us? It's a free world. Post it and le... Sep 30 2007, 11:29 AM jd74914 Yep, lets hear it . . . plagiarism isn't cool.... Sep 30 2007, 11:30 AM Eric_Shea :rolleyes:
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I take exception to thos... Sep 30 2007, 11:42 AM cooltimes Adminstrator or not has no bearing on what another... Sep 30 2007, 12:12 PM brp986s Perhaps this "plagiarist" has permission... Sep 30 2007, 11:56 AM J P Stein If you have something to say, say it...just make s... Sep 30 2007, 12:02 PM brer
Unless there is a copyright/patent for a product... Sep 30 2007, 01:07 PM SLITS It's a free country (last I checked) so speak ... Sep 30 2007, 12:03 PM SLITS
It's a free country (last I checked) so speak... Sep 30 2007, 01:08 PM stateofidleness not taking sides but im about to make a few member... Sep 30 2007, 12:06 PM Eric_Shea
Ditto, welcome back. ;) Sep 30 2007, 01:02 PM brer then again, if its an artist gettting ripped off i... Sep 30 2007, 01:14 PM Eric_Shea
I realize that. I just want you and others to k... Sep 30 2007, 01:31 PM brer What if he had made his own instructions?
Still wr... Sep 30 2007, 01:52 PM Evill Ed Resolved Sep 30 2007, 02:40 PM nein14
What if he had made his own instructions?
Still w... Sep 30 2007, 02:43 PM brer
What if he had made his own instructions?
Still ... Sep 30 2007, 03:27 PM TROJANMAN :popcorn: Sep 30 2007, 02:28 PM Bass Fisher Awhile back, there was a similar issue regarding T... Sep 30 2007, 02:47 PM thomasotten Well, this is interesting because I bought my rear... Sep 30 2007, 03:10 PM rick 918-S My 2 cents. Out market him and out sell him.
So ... Sep 30 2007, 03:15 PM Evill Ed
My 2 cents. Out market him and out sell him.
So... Sep 30 2007, 03:28 PM brer
Are you going to include a copy of Weltmeister... Sep 30 2007, 03:55 PM rick 918-S
My 2 cents. Out market him and out sell him.
S... Sep 30 2007, 06:53 PM JRust How long ago was this? I bought a rear trunk kit f... Sep 30 2007, 03:58 PM Rusty
How long ago was this? I bought a rear trunk kit ... Sep 30 2007, 04:05 PM pfierb
How long ago was this? I bought a rear trunk kit... Oct 1 2007, 07:44 AM nein14
How long ago was this? I bought a rear trunk kit ... Sep 30 2007, 04:07 PM boxstr The instructions came from a set of shocks that we... Sep 30 2007, 04:03 PM Evill Ed Resolved Sep 30 2007, 04:53 PM sww914 Nobody is getting rich making and selling 914 part... Sep 30 2007, 04:17 PM Evill Ed OK, Craig and I talked off line, this has been wor... Sep 30 2007, 05:02 PM cooltimes Edited:
Nice tutor in these lessons between 914 ... Sep 30 2007, 05:17 PM brer What? not going to share the resolution?
what a ri... Sep 30 2007, 06:57 PM Aaron Cox middle men are funny. Sep 30 2007, 07:51 PM 9146986 I'm glad to know there has been a resolution.
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I'm glad to know there has been a resolution.... Oct 1 2007, 07:35 AM pete-stevers this is the most henious crime i have ever heard a... Sep 30 2007, 11:45 PM Matt Meyer [
I am pretty sure a new application is patentabl... Oct 1 2007, 02:11 AM Jake Raby Anyone checked into the costs of a patent lately.
... Oct 1 2007, 07:00 AM Sparky I'm glad Craig and Ed hugged and worked it out... Oct 1 2007, 07:36 AM Dave_Darling
I really just wanna hug. :DRUNK:
Oh, OK... HEY... Oct 1 2007, 10:09 AM dinomium credibility?
Glass houses...
<_< Oct 1 2007, 10:40 AM Racer Chris It does look like this could have been resolved wi... Oct 1 2007, 11:14 AM So.Cal.914 Craig has always seemed fair and knowledgeable. If... Oct 1 2007, 11:23 AM TINCAN914 When ever possible take these things off line. In ... Oct 1 2007, 11:25 AM shelby/914 :agree: 100%
I only have 3 or 4 cars with these... Oct 1 2007, 11:34 AM neo914-6 I would have never noticed Ed's initials on th... Oct 1 2007, 11:41 AM dr914@autoatlanta.com this all goes back to my point. With the limited ... Oct 1 2007, 11:42 AM sww914
this all goes back to my point. With the limited... Oct 1 2007, 07:02 PM rhodyguy good points. why should more than one firm sell re... Oct 1 2007, 12:04 PM stateofidleness because "competition" (and competition c... Oct 1 2007, 12:15 PM Blood red 914-6gt
because "competition" (and competition ... Oct 1 2007, 12:19 PM 9146986 My point is you don't take someone else's ... Oct 1 2007, 12:52 PM Aaron Cox ok... things have been worked out.
the following ... Oct 1 2007, 01:06 PM Lavanaut
My question is, why didnt the 2 involved parties ... Oct 1 2007, 01:16 PM SLITS Since everyone is piss and vinegar over this shit ... Oct 1 2007, 01:14 PM Lavanaut ...and beyond that, i think it's BS when someo... Oct 1 2007, 01:20 PM stateofidleness
because "competition" (and competition... Oct 1 2007, 01:29 PM SLITS They work just great .... no matter where you get ... Oct 1 2007, 01:31 PM cooltimes I sure am puzzled by the way some, even power post... Oct 1 2007, 01:51 PM Brian Mifsud I wonder if this would have been resolved if thing... Oct 1 2007, 02:35 PM ClayPerrine :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:... Oct 1 2007, 02:48 PM cooltimes
:deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse... Oct 1 2007, 04:18 PM ClayPerrine
:deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhors... Oct 1 2007, 07:15 PM cooltimes
Because I started removing them after the board... Oct 1 2007, 08:10 PM orthobiz
:deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse... Oct 1 2007, 06:54 PM xperu OT a little. I honestly do not know how thing work... Oct 1 2007, 02:49 PM rmital
....I finally asked for the money back with no re... Oct 1 2007, 03:04 PM Blood red 914-6gt Hey Mike
I would say just be patient, and keep bo... Oct 1 2007, 03:07 PM Pat Garvey
Hey Mike
I would say just be patient, and keep b... Oct 1 2007, 08:18 PM Eric_Shea Mike (xperu) please contact me with the sellers in... Oct 1 2007, 03:33 PM Pnambic Ya know, I was thinking of creating and marketing ... Oct 1 2007, 04:32 PM grantsfo Glad this incredible ripoff artist was outed by yo... Oct 1 2007, 05:48 PM 9146986 So it's OK with you if someone else calls them... Oct 1 2007, 06:51 PM grantsfo
So it's OK with you if someone else calls the... Oct 1 2007, 09:54 PM grantsfo
So it's OK with you if someone else calls the... Oct 2 2007, 10:54 AM rhodyguy xperu (mike), get your money. the seller should ha... Oct 1 2007, 07:10 PM Eric_Shea I count 40. Oct 1 2007, 07:46 PM Lou W I saw "3:10 to Yuma" yesterday, I think ... Oct 1 2007, 08:13 PM rhodyguy as craig POSTED, the matter is RESOLVED. no blood,... Oct 2 2007, 10:02 AM nein14
as craig POSTED, the matter is RESOLVED. no blood... Oct 2 2007, 10:21 AM brer
[quote name='rhodyguy' post='952500' date='Oct 2 ... Oct 2 2007, 10:55 AM rhodyguy fuck...i surrender. Oct 2 2007, 10:39 AM So.Cal.914 New software needs to be written so we can put up ... Oct 2 2007, 10:43 AM |
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