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> Outing a ripoff, A popular member here is a plagerist!
IronHillRestorations
post Sep 30 2007, 09:21 AM
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So am I a bad guy for outing a ripoff, if the guy doing the ripping is popular here?

There are least two products that I know of, what or who is next?

Do I spill the beans?

I remember not too long ago, no one, NO ONE could say a bad word about Bradholio, without being chastised.

I don't want to be shunned for shedding the light here, but this stuff makes me mad! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Oct 1 2007, 02:11 AM
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I doubt that making a piston style support for a 914 would ever be patentable...I think it has to be a new item, not just a new "application"....but since I've never stayed at a Holliday Inn......


I am pretty sure a new application is patentable, but I have seen trunks and hoods and lift gates being held up by piston style supports before. Using one on a 914 instead of a Honduh isn't patentable I don’t think.

And patenting a new application gives you rights to that application not to the original item, so it doesn't matter any way.

So if Fred patented the pneumatic cylinder and Barney patented the cylinder to support a hood, then Barney couldn't actually sell the cylinders to support hoods without obtaining the rights from Fred. And Fred couldn't use his cylinders to support hoods without obtaining the rights from Barney.

But, if there were any money in it, before either gets their idea off the ground, Mr. Slate will come in and start marketing the pistons for CONGLOMO Inc. and then tie up Fred and Barney in court costs so they never see a dime while CONGLOMO makes millions.

This is not a comment to the subject of the thread, just a comment on if you can patent a new application and further ramblings because the original subject of the thread is RESOLVED so hijacking seems OK and I am very very tired but waiting for my report to print before I go home.
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9146986   Outing a ripoff   Sep 30 2007, 09:21 AM
markb   If someone were about to rip me off, I'd want ...   Sep 30 2007, 09:41 AM
Dr Evil   So long as you state facts and not opinion I see n...   Sep 30 2007, 09:43 AM
So.Cal.914   So long as you state facts and not opinion I see ...   Sep 30 2007, 10:02 AM
ConeDodger   So long as you state facts and not opinion I see...   Sep 30 2007, 10:29 AM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='So.Cal.914' post='951655' date='Sep ...   Sep 30 2007, 07:59 PM
jimtab   [quote name='So.Cal.914' post='951655' date='Sep...   Sep 30 2007, 08:48 PM
lotus_65   you can't resolve i privately? it's been ...   Sep 30 2007, 09:45 AM
SLITS   Send he/she/it a private message expressing your f...   Sep 30 2007, 10:40 AM
9146986   Same exact product. Photocopies of the exact same...   Sep 30 2007, 10:40 AM
ConeDodger   Same exact product. Photocopies of the exact sam...   Sep 30 2007, 10:44 AM
cooltimes   PK, When you have to ask before telling what you b...   Sep 30 2007, 10:44 AM
BMXerror   I think you have to say what you have to say. This...   Sep 30 2007, 11:11 AM
Bass Fisher   Why ask us? It's a free world. Post it and let...   Sep 30 2007, 11:19 AM
Rusty   Why ask us? It's a free world. Post it and le...   Sep 30 2007, 11:29 AM
jd74914   Yep, lets hear it . . . plagiarism isn't cool....   Sep 30 2007, 11:30 AM
Eric_Shea   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I take exception to thos...   Sep 30 2007, 11:42 AM
cooltimes   Adminstrator or not has no bearing on what another...   Sep 30 2007, 12:12 PM
brp986s   Perhaps this "plagiarist" has permission...   Sep 30 2007, 11:56 AM
J P Stein   If you have something to say, say it...just make s...   Sep 30 2007, 12:02 PM
brer   Unless there is a copyright/patent for a product...   Sep 30 2007, 01:07 PM
SLITS   It's a free country (last I checked) so speak ...   Sep 30 2007, 12:03 PM
SLITS   It's a free country (last I checked) so speak...   Sep 30 2007, 01:08 PM
stateofidleness   not taking sides but im about to make a few member...   Sep 30 2007, 12:06 PM
Eric_Shea   Ditto, welcome back. ;)   Sep 30 2007, 01:02 PM
brer   then again, if its an artist gettting ripped off i...   Sep 30 2007, 01:14 PM
9146986   Ok, I've communicated with the person who ORIG...   Sep 30 2007, 01:16 PM
Eric_Shea   I realize that. I just want you and others to k...   Sep 30 2007, 01:31 PM
brer   What if he had made his own instructions? Still wr...   Sep 30 2007, 01:52 PM
Evill Ed   Resolved   Sep 30 2007, 02:40 PM
nein14   What if he had made his own instructions? Still w...   Sep 30 2007, 02:43 PM
brer   What if he had made his own instructions? Still ...   Sep 30 2007, 03:27 PM
TROJANMAN   :popcorn:   Sep 30 2007, 02:28 PM
Bass Fisher   Awhile back, there was a similar issue regarding T...   Sep 30 2007, 02:47 PM
thomasotten   Well, this is interesting because I bought my rear...   Sep 30 2007, 03:10 PM
rick 918-S   My 2 cents. Out market him and out sell him. So ...   Sep 30 2007, 03:15 PM
Evill Ed   My 2 cents. Out market him and out sell him. So...   Sep 30 2007, 03:28 PM
brer   Are you going to include a copy of Weltmeister...   Sep 30 2007, 03:55 PM
rick 918-S   My 2 cents. Out market him and out sell him. S...   Sep 30 2007, 06:53 PM
JRust   How long ago was this? I bought a rear trunk kit f...   Sep 30 2007, 03:58 PM
Rusty   How long ago was this? I bought a rear trunk kit ...   Sep 30 2007, 04:05 PM
pfierb   How long ago was this? I bought a rear trunk kit...   Oct 1 2007, 07:44 AM
nein14   How long ago was this? I bought a rear trunk kit ...   Sep 30 2007, 04:07 PM
boxstr   The instructions came from a set of shocks that we...   Sep 30 2007, 04:03 PM
Evill Ed   Resolved   Sep 30 2007, 04:53 PM
sww914   Nobody is getting rich making and selling 914 part...   Sep 30 2007, 04:17 PM
Evill Ed   OK, Craig and I talked off line, this has been wor...   Sep 30 2007, 05:02 PM
cooltimes   Edited: Nice tutor in these lessons between 914 ...   Sep 30 2007, 05:17 PM
brer   What? not going to share the resolution? what a ri...   Sep 30 2007, 06:57 PM
Aaron Cox   middle men are funny.   Sep 30 2007, 07:51 PM
9146986   I'm glad to know there has been a resolution. ...   Sep 30 2007, 08:20 PM
nein14   I'm glad to know there has been a resolution....   Oct 1 2007, 07:35 AM
pete-stevers   this is the most henious crime i have ever heard a...   Sep 30 2007, 11:45 PM
Matt Meyer   [ I am pretty sure a new application is patentabl...   Oct 1 2007, 02:11 AM
Jake Raby   Anyone checked into the costs of a patent lately. ...   Oct 1 2007, 07:00 AM
Sparky   I'm glad Craig and Ed hugged and worked it out...   Oct 1 2007, 07:36 AM
Dave_Darling   I really just wanna hug. :DRUNK: Oh, OK... HEY...   Oct 1 2007, 10:09 AM
dinomium   credibility? Glass houses... <_<   Oct 1 2007, 10:40 AM
Racer Chris   It does look like this could have been resolved wi...   Oct 1 2007, 11:14 AM
So.Cal.914   Craig has always seemed fair and knowledgeable. If...   Oct 1 2007, 11:23 AM
TINCAN914   When ever possible take these things off line. In ...   Oct 1 2007, 11:25 AM
shelby/914   :agree: 100% I only have 3 or 4 cars with these...   Oct 1 2007, 11:34 AM
neo914-6   I would have never noticed Ed's initials on th...   Oct 1 2007, 11:41 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   this all goes back to my point. With the limited ...   Oct 1 2007, 11:42 AM
sww914   this all goes back to my point. With the limited...   Oct 1 2007, 07:02 PM
rhodyguy   good points. why should more than one firm sell re...   Oct 1 2007, 12:04 PM
stateofidleness   because "competition" (and competition c...   Oct 1 2007, 12:15 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   because "competition" (and competition ...   Oct 1 2007, 12:19 PM
9146986   My point is you don't take someone else's ...   Oct 1 2007, 12:52 PM
Aaron Cox   ok... things have been worked out. the following ...   Oct 1 2007, 01:06 PM
Lavanaut   My question is, why didnt the 2 involved parties ...   Oct 1 2007, 01:16 PM
SLITS   Since everyone is piss and vinegar over this shit ...   Oct 1 2007, 01:14 PM
Lavanaut   ...and beyond that, i think it's BS when someo...   Oct 1 2007, 01:20 PM
stateofidleness   because "competition" (and competition...   Oct 1 2007, 01:29 PM
SLITS   They work just great .... no matter where you get ...   Oct 1 2007, 01:31 PM
cooltimes   I sure am puzzled by the way some, even power post...   Oct 1 2007, 01:51 PM
Brian Mifsud   I wonder if this would have been resolved if thing...   Oct 1 2007, 02:35 PM
ClayPerrine   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:...   Oct 1 2007, 02:48 PM
cooltimes   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse...   Oct 1 2007, 04:18 PM
ClayPerrine   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhors...   Oct 1 2007, 07:15 PM
cooltimes   Because I started removing them after the board...   Oct 1 2007, 08:10 PM
orthobiz   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse...   Oct 1 2007, 06:54 PM
xperu   OT a little. I honestly do not know how thing work...   Oct 1 2007, 02:49 PM
rmital   ....I finally asked for the money back with no re...   Oct 1 2007, 03:04 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   Hey Mike I would say just be patient, and keep bo...   Oct 1 2007, 03:07 PM
Pat Garvey   Hey Mike I would say just be patient, and keep b...   Oct 1 2007, 08:18 PM
Eric_Shea   Mike (xperu) please contact me with the sellers in...   Oct 1 2007, 03:33 PM
Pnambic   Ya know, I was thinking of creating and marketing ...   Oct 1 2007, 04:32 PM
grantsfo   Glad this incredible ripoff artist was outed by yo...   Oct 1 2007, 05:48 PM
9146986   So it's OK with you if someone else calls them...   Oct 1 2007, 06:51 PM
grantsfo   So it's OK with you if someone else calls the...   Oct 1 2007, 09:54 PM
grantsfo   So it's OK with you if someone else calls the...   Oct 2 2007, 10:54 AM
rhodyguy   xperu (mike), get your money. the seller should ha...   Oct 1 2007, 07:10 PM
Eric_Shea   I count 40.   Oct 1 2007, 07:46 PM
Lou W   I saw "3:10 to Yuma" yesterday, I think ...   Oct 1 2007, 08:13 PM
rhodyguy   as craig POSTED, the matter is RESOLVED. no blood,...   Oct 2 2007, 10:02 AM
nein14   as craig POSTED, the matter is RESOLVED. no blood...   Oct 2 2007, 10:21 AM
brer   [quote name='rhodyguy' post='952500' date='Oct 2 ...   Oct 2 2007, 10:55 AM
rhodyguy   fuck...i surrender.   Oct 2 2007, 10:39 AM
So.Cal.914   New software needs to be written so we can put up ...   Oct 2 2007, 10:43 AM
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