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| chris914 |
Nov 1 2007, 05:30 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 24-July 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 2,393 Region Association: Southern California |
Have you made changes to your 914 body or are you thinking of it?
Here are a number of computer models comparing different body modifications to the 914 and the effects that they have on the cars aerodynamic drag. http://www.cassidy-online.com/porsche914/aerodynamic_aids |
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| wbergtho |
Nov 1 2007, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 28-April 03 From: Roberts, WI Member No.: 623 |
QUOTE I think most people would agree there would be little to no effect of spoilers at 20 or 30 MPH. The only time aerodynamic aids will make an appreciable difference are at speeds much greater than autocross speeds. To make it worth your while, I would think you'd need to on a big track going between 50-150MPH or greater. The aero info is interesting and I'm not trying to be negative...you just won't make much use of aero aids on an autocross track. Use your points for suspension upgrades. |
| chris914 |
Nov 1 2007, 03:49 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 24-July 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 2,393 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE I think most people would agree there would be little to no effect of spoilers at 20 or 30 MPH. The only time aerodynamic aids will make an appreciable difference are at speeds much greater than autocross speeds. To make it worth your while, I would think you'd need to on a big track going between 50-150MPH or greater. The aero info is interesting and I'm not trying to be negative...you just won't make much use of aero aids on an autocross track. Use your points for suspension upgrades. Yes that is true. If you read my introduction on the web page you can see why I was testing my original front spoiler at all. Also a lot of the testing was done for speeds of 75mph to 120mph to help people that run their cars on large tracks. And it is useful to know the flow path as Sean pointed out even at lower speeds. |
chris914 Aerodynamic Aids - What a drag Nov 1 2007, 05:30 AM
TeenerTim Interesting but the 2006 report doesn't addres... Nov 1 2007, 08:31 AM
BahnBrenner914 :agree: Nov 1 2007, 09:48 AM
jd74914 They 2007 report says that they tested CFD models ... Nov 1 2007, 09:53 AM
sean_v8_914 the flow path is the relevant info. Nov 1 2007, 09:59 AM
chris914 Over the past three years, three different student... Nov 1 2007, 01:46 PM
TeenerTim Now if they could determine the optimum height, su... Nov 1 2007, 02:27 PM
Joe Ricard Please steer your students to test something like ... Nov 1 2007, 02:52 PM
jhadler
The only time aerodynamic aids will make an appr... Nov 1 2007, 05:38 PM
Joe Ricard Our slowest courses are 50 MPH.
I'm keeping ... Nov 1 2007, 03:38 PM
BahnBrenner914 This has got me thinking of my ME/Aero senior desi... Nov 1 2007, 09:25 PM
alpha434 Mr Hadler is definitely correct.
It's simple ... Nov 1 2007, 11:26 PM
Air_Cooled_Nut So does anyone have EQUATIONS that one could plug ... Nov 2 2007, 11:21 AM
chris914
So does anyone have EQUATIONS that one could plug... Nov 2 2007, 12:34 PM
Air_Cooled_Nut ...http://www.amazon.com/Aerodynamics-Hp1267-...72... Nov 3 2007, 02:52 PM
Mike914 I'd like to see some studies done on the airfl... Nov 2 2007, 12:27 PM
jhadler ...so should I remove, keep or reverse the little ... Nov 2 2007, 12:37 PM
Mike914
...so should I remove, keep or reverse the little... Nov 5 2007, 02:39 PM
jhadler
Actually NO fan anymore, the motor just has alumi... Nov 5 2007, 02:47 PM
Mike914 Uhm... First off, no fan equals no engine... Just ... Nov 6 2007, 07:39 PM
alpha434 Frontal profile X Cd = Drag Efficiency
Wind speed... Nov 2 2007, 12:46 PM
kwales Hunhhhhhh??????
Chris, according to you "th... Nov 2 2007, 07:54 PM
URY914 I'm getting in on this thread a little late, b... Nov 2 2007, 08:12 PM
Twystd1 Yea...
Those wings "MUST" be just for t... Nov 2 2007, 08:19 PM
URY914 There is a ratio for a wing's height to its de... Nov 2 2007, 08:21 PM
alpha434 Ken. That statement was half-joke. But only half. ... Nov 3 2007, 12:31 AM
Twystd1 Chris...................
Be nice dammit.
Da old ... Nov 3 2007, 01:46 AM
d914 ok, jumping in, no areo background and for the neo... Nov 3 2007, 07:57 AM
Joe Ricard My wing was not cheap and it is NOT a "RICER... Nov 3 2007, 08:56 AM
d914 didnt mean it as a shot, just alittle toward styli... Nov 3 2007, 09:15 AM
sean_v8_914 my wing a ling your wing a ling, won't you pla... Nov 3 2007, 11:03 AM
Air_Cooled_Nut
... those HUGE wings do work at lower speeds but ... Nov 3 2007, 02:47 PM
Mikey914 I agree, the wing must be suited for the applicati... Nov 3 2007, 11:48 AM
chris914
The real solution would be to have a variable ca... Nov 3 2007, 01:03 PM
alpha434
The real solution would be to have a variable c... Nov 3 2007, 01:58 PM
Mugs914
Early race car wings were actuated by the brakes.... Nov 3 2007, 08:46 PM
Mugs914 Just a few somewhat random thoughts to add to the ... Nov 3 2007, 12:28 PM
Mugs914 Another couplea thoughts:
Airplane wings operate ... Nov 3 2007, 01:21 PM
Headrage You know what they say:
The bigger the wing, the ... Nov 3 2007, 08:56 PM
Mugs914
You know what they say:
The bigger the wing, the... Nov 3 2007, 09:24 PM
alpha434 Well... You're right about the "no downfo... Nov 3 2007, 09:57 PM
grantsfo I love amatuer aerodynamic discussions.
Anyone ... Nov 3 2007, 11:16 PM
jhadler
I love amatuer aerodynamic discussions.
Anyone... Nov 5 2007, 11:46 AM
BahnBrenner914 Alright, reading through all this stuff is really ... Nov 4 2007, 12:30 PM
chris914 I will most likely be sponsoring another student g... Nov 4 2007, 02:41 PM
grantsfo
I will most likely be sponsoring another student ... Nov 4 2007, 08:47 PM
chris914
Curious did you model any down force calculations... Nov 4 2007, 11:16 PM
jd74914 Chris, have you ever used Fluent? Some guys here a... Nov 4 2007, 08:58 PM
chris914
Chris, have you ever used Fluent? Some guys here ... Nov 4 2007, 11:20 PM
sean_v8_914 like Mugz said...random thoughts... from an amateu... Nov 5 2007, 12:11 AM
sean_v8_914 Elise, Exige Enzo too. Nov 5 2007, 12:12 AM
jd74914 One more question. It says in the 2007 piece that ... Nov 5 2007, 12:58 AM
chris914
One more question. It says in the 2007 piece that... Nov 5 2007, 04:27 AM
kwales Hey!
Thanks for the big shot of the different... Nov 6 2007, 08:23 PM
kwales OK boys,
I'm priming the pump....
Here is 2 ... Nov 6 2007, 08:40 PM![]() ![]() |
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