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| Racer |
 Nov 26 2007, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region  |
I am facing a suprising dilemma.
I have come across a pristine '76 2.0 with many of the track car trimmings I desire for my future DE/AX/Weekend car. It has accusump, safety devises cage, Chassis stiffening kit, front oilcooler and aux guages. Turbo Tie rods. 140lb rear springs. 19mm master cylinder, Larger (21mm?) Torsion bars, lowered, solid battery box and longitudinals. Stock seats. Red over black. Emissions equipment removed. Stock FI. Stock 4bolt wheels/brakes. Absolutely no rust. 2 owner car with 95K miles The other one? a '74.. completely "rotissoried" and rebuilt with 80's SC 3.0 liter converted to webbers. 911S front brakes. 914 Six rear brakes. Stiffening kit. No Cage. No fAux oil Cooler. 6/7x16s with 205s. Beautiful black over black. No rust here either. Stock interior, Sideshifter conversion. Headers that are "heat" capable. I know its not a bad dilemma to have (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) For your consideration, my last 914 was a '70 1.7 that i added a cage, 5 bolt conversion (Carrera brakes), stiffer TBs and rear springs; 2056 motor, oil cooler and tracked and DEd for a number of years, only selling to get a 911, which has since been sold. Any feedback as to which you might choose and why would be appreciated. |
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| iamchappy |
Nov 28 2007, 08:23 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest  |
Cute, I wonder which one is more reliable at 400 hp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| Jake Raby |
Nov 28 2007, 09:40 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(iamchappy @ Nov 28 2007, 07:23 AM)  That one saw 27 hours in the lab under boost the whole time and didn't even have more tha 2% leak down hot... The highest oil temp it was was 217 and the highest head temp was 320 which is about 30 degrees cooler than a stock 2.0 makeing 1/3 the power.. It has dry sump oiling, billet rods, billet cam, Nickies cylinders, CNC heads and basically all the typical failure points for the TIV removed.. The main fault that the TIV has had that leads to failure has been misconfiguration and corners being cut in design and application. We haven't had a catastrophic engine failure in almost 4 years on the street, on the track or in the lab.. It might happen tomorrow, but it's been 60 engines since it happened last. |
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Racer Decision to make - "4" or "6" Nov 26 2007, 03:08 PM
TeenerTim No brainer.
6
Edit: OK, you asked why. Probably t... Nov 26 2007, 03:19 PM
woobn8r
No brainer.
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Edit: OK, y... Nov 26 2007, 07:35 PM 911quest I know the arugment has been beaten to death.....
... Nov 26 2007, 03:28 PM jhadler I think it really depends on what you want to do w... Nov 26 2007, 03:55 PM Randal
I think it really depends on what you want to do ... Feb 21 2008, 09:23 PM J P Stein
Yup. If you want to compete on a national auto... Feb 22 2008, 07:12 AM J P Stein oops Feb 22 2008, 07:13 AM Rand Just to play a little devil's advocate here...... Nov 26 2007, 03:55 PM TeenerTim Ouch! I sold my last 914 to buy a 911 and neve... Nov 26 2007, 04:26 PM Racer
Ouch! I sold my last 914 to buy a 911 and nev... Nov 26 2007, 04:31 PM angerosa
Ouch! I sold my last 914 to buy a 911 and ne... Nov 27 2007, 09:49 AM Michael N
Ouch! I sold my last 914 to buy a 911 and nev... Nov 26 2007, 06:04 PM Racer I have thought about PCA Club racing. As such, the... Nov 26 2007, 04:25 PM markb Personally I would go for the 6, but that's mo... Nov 26 2007, 04:33 PM SirAndy <img src="http://www.914world.com/bbs2/sty... Nov 26 2007, 04:49 PM rfuerst911sc I am currently doing a /6 conversion useing a 3.0 ... Nov 26 2007, 04:54 PM sww914 6. 95% of your time in the car will be on the stre... Nov 26 2007, 05:03 PM Jake Raby
This isn't 1982.
The development of the /4 e... Nov 26 2007, 06:09 PM ppickerell
This isn't 1982.
The development of the /4 ... Nov 26 2007, 06:54 PM 9146986 I'm a 6'er kinda guy.
You are getting goo... Nov 26 2007, 07:30 PM Blood red 914-6gt As said before... It really just depends on what y... Nov 26 2007, 07:38 PM Jake Raby Thanks! For the kudos.. We have come a long wa... Nov 26 2007, 07:56 PM turboman808
Thanks! For the kudos.. We have come a long w... Nov 27 2007, 03:07 PM Eric Taylor I was thinking about this dilemma as usuall and th... Nov 26 2007, 08:07 PM BKLA From someone who's had both a 4 (my first :wub... Nov 26 2007, 08:35 PM 9146FAN [b]
Go with the $ix Nov 26 2007, 10:15 PM LarryR I think that for practicality of racing the 4 is a... Nov 26 2007, 10:32 PM PRS914-6 I refuse to comment on these threads so I won... Nov 27 2007, 04:42 PM Root_Werks I'm happy to have one that doesn't drop a ... Nov 27 2007, 05:13 PM Racer I appreciate everyone's enthusiasm as I know t... Nov 27 2007, 05:23 PM Rand Seems the consensus is pretty clearly leaning towa... Nov 27 2007, 06:26 PM J P Stein Rebuilding the 2.7L after 7 years of AX flogging. ... Nov 27 2007, 06:44 PM LarryR
Rebuilding the 2.7L after 7 years of AX flogging.... Nov 27 2007, 11:36 PM 911quest I think it comes down to what the motors were desi... Nov 27 2007, 07:19 PM LarryR
I think it comes down to what the motors were des... Nov 27 2007, 10:44 PM degreeoff
Rebuilding the 2.7L after 7 years of AX flogging.... Nov 27 2007, 07:47 PM iamchappy There is just something special about a 6. :waveby... Nov 27 2007, 09:26 PM Jake Raby
There is just something special about a 6. :waveb... Nov 28 2007, 06:47 AM degreeoff
Rebuilding the 2.7L after 7 years of AX flogging... Nov 27 2007, 11:39 PM 911quest
Cute, I wonder which one is more reliable at 400 ... Nov 28 2007, 09:12 AM sww914
Cute, I wonder which one is more reliable at 400... Nov 28 2007, 10:02 AM Jake Raby
Hell, according to the common thoughts displayed ... Nov 28 2007, 10:12 AM effutuo101 There are + and - to both sides. Figure out the co... Nov 28 2007, 10:23 AM DNHunt I've been there when Jake has a motor on the d... Nov 28 2007, 10:49 AM iamchappy Jake thats amazing, and i do appreciate what your ... Nov 28 2007, 11:01 AM Twise Six - Six - Six Nov 28 2007, 12:30 PM Jake Raby http://rdtlabs.com/Pictures/4camcarrera/4%20cam%20... Nov 28 2007, 12:38 PM Blood red 914-6gt :drooley: ooooooo...car porn. Nov 28 2007, 01:00 PM iamchappy It's time you sponsor a 24 Lemans car. WOW... Nov 28 2007, 02:10 PM 911quest I helped build and prep a 2.0 type 4 that was raci... Nov 28 2007, 03:08 PM Jake Raby You could keep the prize.. If i could do that I... Nov 28 2007, 03:13 PM Blood red 914-6gt
You could keep the prize.. If i could do that I... Nov 28 2007, 03:18 PM degreeoff
So what do you feel is so weak about the engine... Nov 28 2007, 04:48 PM ConeDodger I have about 700 miles on my newly built Raby Kit ... Nov 28 2007, 05:01 PM Jake Raby
I counter this with;
The reason the six needs ... Nov 28 2007, 06:17 PM Chuck My .02 and it is worth precisely that . . . .
I R... Nov 28 2007, 08:38 PM Racer :bump:
I've decided to go with a 2.0L 4... Dec 10 2007, 08:51 PM Gint Excellent choice.
I've had, what... 7 914... Dec 10 2007, 09:24 PM Jake Raby Great choice..
I am working on the finalities of t... Dec 10 2007, 09:39 PM LarryR
Great choice..
I am working on the finalities of ... Dec 10 2007, 11:11 PM Jake Raby
Great choice..
I am working on the finalities of... Dec 11 2007, 08:16 AM HAM Inc The last two years have seen some incredible advan... Dec 11 2007, 08:28 AM Jake Raby Yep.. It took me all day just to finish the 2056cc... Dec 11 2007, 04:34 PM Slider It is amazing how much the type4's have advanc... Feb 22 2008, 06:50 PM Jake Raby I did this on Thursday.
Pump gas, TIV non after... Feb 23 2008, 11:49 AM JPB I know of one local bro who hates it when Raby eng... Feb 23 2008, 12:21 PM Jake Raby
I know of one local bro who hates it when Raby en... Feb 23 2008, 01:06 PM grantsfo In my opinion six is best choice as there are stil... Feb 23 2008, 01:21 PM Jake Raby Grant,
Glad to see you are back from Hibernation.... Feb 23 2008, 02:42 PM So.Cal.914 RE: Decision to make - "4" or "6" Feb 23 2008, 05:41 PM degreeoff
AW come on man! There should be at leas... Feb 23 2008, 06:23 PM |
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