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> This is really sobering.
KaptKaos
post Jan 31 2008, 02:37 PM
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Colum...rticleId=124526

Its about that kid that launched the M5 off the runway and died. Evidently, he was on a forum, not unlike this one. The M5 board seems to be down right now.

Since I can't read the forum, and see what people were posting, I'll need to wait until it's online. But I can't help but think that maybe someone could have reasoned with him not to drive so fast. Terribly sad.
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post Feb 1 2008, 08:48 AM
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This is a repete-able event. Everyone with children on this BBS should make a pact with all of us to learn from this.

I'm going to share something here. One of my sons is a car guy. I will always remember his first drive by himself after getting his lic. at age 16. He asked if he could go to a friends house about 3 miles away. We had been practicing driving with a manual transmission and he was proficient enough with it to opporate the clutch in normal traffic. He asked if he could take my E12 530I.

As you all know Nothing I own is ever stock and this car was no exception. 5 sp conversion, free flow 533I manifolds, open exhaust, lamda injection conversion, etc. I tossed him the keys and told him to be careful. His face lit up with a beaming grin and his buddy could hardly contain he excitment. It felt good to me as well. But I knew this could go both ways.

I went up to my office on the third floor of my house. As he rolled away from the house everything was cool. But with my office window open I could hear him drop the hammer and wind up my big 6 2 blocks from the house. I called him on his cell phone and busted him!

Then I got on the net and signed him up for the Teen Driving Clinic through the Northstar Chapter of the BMWCCA. By the time the class arrived We had Purchased a VW GTI from the Salvage auction and completed the repairs together. This was a very enlightning experience for him. He brought 3 friends with him. They all went through the instruction and we talked about safe ways to enjoy your car in controlled environments.

After that day I allowed him to take my E36 M3 to school. I'm sure he had his moments. When the cats away... you know. But he'll be 21 soon and has never had an accident or ticket... yet.

I'm not saying I'm a perfect parent, I'm far from it. But I'm just saying we need to do what we can to teach our children.

I'm confident that the things I did helped. AS I stated above, not all kids mature the same. The photos of my M3 posted above were the result of a kid with no instruction. Before I sold the car to that kid I had the talk with him. I cautioned him about the car and told him he should take the Teen Driving School. His parents were divorced, (his dad was a detective...) But they payed no attension to him. Thankfully both kids in that car are alive.

Learn from this and teach your children well.
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post Feb 1 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Feb 1 2008, 06:48 AM) *

This is a repete-able event. Everyone with children on this BBS should make a pact with all of us to learn from this.

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Learn from this and teach your children well.


Rick, that was a great story and thank you for sharing. You remind me of my father (Not to age you or anything) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

By the time I was 17 I had a 68' 911L that was much more of a car than a 17 year old should have had. But my father was much like you. He was a huge car guy himself and was proud I could work, school (Good grades) and afford the payments on the 911. I did get a couple of tickets in it over the years, but nothing major.

I think most of it is in the parenting.
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KaptKaos   This is really sobering.   Jan 31 2008, 02:37 PM
jasons   My brother has the M6 version of that car. I can...   Jan 31 2008, 02:47 PM
Brando   I know it's sad and all... But what a fucking ...   Jan 31 2008, 02:48 PM
KaptKaos   Valid points. My reason for posting this was th...   Jan 31 2008, 02:51 PM
356   I wouldn't give a kid any type of performance ...   Jan 31 2008, 03:06 PM
hydroliftin   One of my other cars is a Ford Focus. Back in 200...   Jan 31 2008, 04:24 PM
championgt1   Anyone can get in a car a GO fast. It takes experi...   Jan 31 2008, 04:29 PM
scotty b   This kids bragadocious attitude reminds me alot of...   Jan 31 2008, 07:36 PM
So.Cal.914   Bummer...Just bummer.   Jan 31 2008, 07:56 PM
yenningComity   Well, I am almost 21 and my most powerful car is 1...   Jan 31 2008, 08:15 PM
scotty b   Sounds like to me you were brought up right. Congr...   Jan 31 2008, 08:22 PM
Sleepin   Pretty sad....I don't know too much to say oth...   Jan 31 2008, 08:42 PM
dgw   :agree: I made it through those years because I h...   Jan 31 2008, 08:47 PM
watsonrx13   The accident happened just north of the Tampa area...   Jan 31 2008, 08:59 PM
Vacca Rabite   The accident happened just north of the Tampa are...   Jan 31 2008, 09:33 PM
sww914   When I was 18 I was driving a '68 bug with 60 ...   Jan 31 2008, 10:05 PM
rick 918-S   I was talked into selling an 18 yr old kid my M3...   Jan 31 2008, 10:06 PM
KaptKaos   Rick, What happened to the driver's side airb...   Jan 31 2008, 11:29 PM
So.Cal.914   Rick, What happened to the driver's side air...   Jan 31 2008, 11:43 PM
Rob Ways   At 16 I was riding a motorcycle through the street...   Jan 31 2008, 11:51 PM
village idiot   Rick, What happened to the driver's side air...   Feb 1 2008, 12:29 AM
bigkensteele   I bought my first car when I was 15 from my paper ...   Feb 1 2008, 01:15 AM
pete914   Before getting the 'teener I owned an e36 M3. ...   Feb 1 2008, 05:59 AM
rhodyguy   plus 4 of his friends. sad story. k   Feb 1 2008, 06:58 AM
mudfoot76   I saw that story on Jalopnik a few nights ago and ...   Feb 1 2008, 07:30 AM
davep   It is sad that those 5 sets of parents somehow fa...   Feb 1 2008, 08:37 AM
749142   I saw that story on Jalopnik a few nights ago and...   Feb 1 2008, 08:41 PM
rick 918-S   This is a repete-able event. Everyone with childre...   Feb 1 2008, 08:48 AM
Root_Werks   This is a repete-able event. Everyone with childr...   Feb 1 2008, 12:17 PM
SLITS   The sad part is the idiot took friends with him. ...   Feb 1 2008, 09:37 AM
gopack   The sad part is the idiot took friends with him....   Feb 1 2008, 11:40 AM
sean_v8_914   ...natural selection.   Feb 1 2008, 09:47 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I must agree that parents dropped the ball here. V...   Feb 1 2008, 12:46 PM
BMXerror   Manual transmission? What? (from the article. NVM)...   Feb 1 2008, 01:12 PM
byndbad914   all I can say is glad I am still alive. I had a 7...   Feb 1 2008, 01:14 PM
So.Cal.914   People are dangerous, cars are indifferent. My ...   Feb 1 2008, 01:15 PM
yenningComity   [quote name='So.Cal.914' date='Feb 1 2...   Feb 1 2008, 07:37 PM
andys   Can't say I agree with the generalization of b...   Feb 1 2008, 06:14 PM
356   The little snot had FOUR tickets......MY kid would...   Feb 1 2008, 08:53 PM
alpha434   What are you talking about? The 914 is extremely ...   Feb 1 2008, 10:13 PM
Lou W   The sad part is the idiot took friends with him....   Feb 1 2008, 11:16 PM
rhodyguy   everyone who did'nt get involved in stupid stu...   Feb 2 2008, 09:06 AM
scotty b   Rick I remember your experience and I like and res...   Feb 2 2008, 09:20 AM
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