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> OT: Oui, Oui, Two Perfect Days In Paris, ...help me put together a to do list.
Eric_Shea
post Feb 13 2008, 12:11 PM
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So... I'll be in Frankfurt 3/11 through 3/14 and decided to take the bullet to Paris 3/15 and 3/16.

I'll get in around 10:00AM that Saturday and fly out Monday the 17th. Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to put together "Two Perfect Days in Paris"

What the hell should I do, go, see, eat? Looking for advice from those who have been or are there.

I have my "pick" of hotels (insider connection):

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/parl...tel-la-defense/
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/parv...-vendome-hotel/
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/pars...rocadero-paris/
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/pard...champs-elysees/
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/pars...ference-center/
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/parc...-paris-neuilly/
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/para...gaulle-airport/

Thoughts? Can "The Collective" put something together?

Any advice would be appreciated.
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post Feb 16 2008, 01:47 AM
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I'm envious. I was in France for 3 weeks last March for our 35th anniversary and I can hardly wait to go back. We had 4 days in Paris. I discovered Paris on a trip in 2000 and have now been back twice. I've fallen in love with it and go every chance I can get.

The suggestions to get Rick Steves' stuff are spot on. He points out that the French are not rude in "refusing" to speak English, but they are very particular about language and unwilling to speak a language if they cannot speak it well. We have found this to be quite true and have found that the few phrases listed earlier are about all you need to get by. The big thing is to initiate a conversation with "Pardon, parlez vous anglais?". Pardon is important because you have asked permission to engage in conversation. Using what French you have is important because you've just built a cross-cultural bridge and shown that you recognize that you are a guest in their country and have invited them to make you feel welcome. Although we have found Parisians to be "ruder" than people in the countryside, it's really because it's the big city thing. Using this little bit of French has always opened every door we've needed.

On my last trip I picked up a handy phrase for ordering meat - awe pwan (that's a phonetic spelling - the last word has the "a" pronounced like pawn). It means you want your meat cooked "medium".

Being American has never been a problem and in fact we've been thanked for visiting France. Some French people may have a problem with our current government, but they are quite welcoming of Americans.

We've taken the Seine River cruise. There's one that leaves from Pont Neuf and returns to the same dock. It's fun to take at sunset when the lights are beginning to come on. There is also one called a Bato Boat that is like a water taxi that will drop you off up and down the Seine and your ticket gives you unlimited on/off privileges. We've never seen a need to take that since the Seine can be a good walk away from where we want to go from the stop if it's someplace away from central Paris.

Although going up the Eiffel Tower is a must, we prefer to do the Arc de Triomphe at Sunset because you can see the city well and see the Eiffel Tower as it lights up. We've found that going up to the second level of the Eiffel Tower is high enough to get a great view of the city without the extra expense of going to the top.

When we go to Paris we stay cheap at the Etap Hotel at Porte de Vincennes (49E per night). Our "commute" is to stop for breakfast at the patisserie (bakery) near the St. Mande metro station, then take the #1 line to Place St. Michel. We grab a coffee from the Columbus Cafe or Starbucks and wander off to whatever sights are on the list for that day. Everything in central Paris is pretty much within walking distance from that point. We get a "carne" (pronounced car-nay) of 10 metro tickets so that it's easy to take the metro to get to more distant places like the Eiffel Tower or Arc de Triomphe. You can get the carne at a self-service station in the wall that will take your credit card or the ticket booth with "un carne, s'il vous plait".

My own list for a 2 day first visit would be:
Eiffel Tower
Crepes on Rue Clere for lunch with dessert from the patisserie
Notre Dame
Arc de Triomphe
Saint Chappelle
d'Orsay Museum
Louvre (just the highlights)
Baguette sandwich from the Paul cart near the Louvre
Seine river cruise
Eat dinner at a street cafe near Notre Dame
Walk between every site that you can and just soak in the city

Cautionary notes:
When around the Louvre watch for gypsies who will attempt to start a conversation with "Do you speak English?". Be rude and do not answer at all, just keep walking as if you did not understand them.

Same thing goes for the guys near Sacre Coeur who want you to stop and let them do some kind of string braid thing on your finger.

Wear a money belt that is inside your clothing. There are pick pockets on the Metro, but if you sit with your backpack on your lap and don't have your wallet in your back pocket, you'll probably do fine.

P.S. -
Buy the museum pass. It saves you from waiting in line to get in to places.

Enter the Louvre through the entrance on Rue de Rivoli. It's a kind of "back door" through an underground shopping area and is always quicker than going in through the pyramid.

Check out Samanta Brown's "Passport to Europe" shows on the Travel Channel. Her shows on Paris are pretty good and are repeated often.

Our library has Rick Steves' videos available for check-out. If your library has them, they are well worth viewing. His DVD on Germany includes his 3-part "travel skills" series which is highly recommended.

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Eric_Shea   OT: Oui, Oui, Two Perfect Days In Paris   Feb 13 2008, 12:11 PM
Dr. Roger   first question... are you married? =)   Feb 13 2008, 12:26 PM
ruddyboys   I was in Paris Last May, It was beautiful. Stayed ...   Feb 13 2008, 12:32 PM
rebelmdot   Learn some French quick. They speak English, but ...   Feb 13 2008, 12:46 PM
TeenerTim   You definitely want to stay on the Champs-Elysees....   Feb 13 2008, 12:50 PM
purple   perfect 'parlay voo onglay' that will get...   Feb 13 2008, 12:53 PM
ruddyboys   I agree with Tim, everyone I met was very friendly...   Feb 13 2008, 01:10 PM
shelby/914   I would just stay in Germany, Austria or go to Hol...   Feb 13 2008, 01:27 PM
Dr. Roger   the reference to single or married is because ther...   Feb 13 2008, 01:54 PM
brer   Bhudda Bar used to be fun.   Feb 13 2008, 02:10 PM
Eric_Shea   Looks like I'm zeroing in on the Marriott on C...   Feb 13 2008, 02:24 PM
TeenerTim   In order to have the most fun, I think you should ...   Feb 13 2008, 03:57 PM
crash914   Never got to do it but try the sewer tour...visit ...   Feb 13 2008, 03:16 PM
SirAndy   Any advice would be appreciated. under no circum...   Feb 13 2008, 03:31 PM
r_towle   If you are just with your wife, the Louve...at lea...   Feb 13 2008, 03:39 PM
pete-stevers   eric i can do french lessons, but sorry not for yo...   Feb 13 2008, 04:13 PM
ruddyboys   My favorite photo I took in Paris.   Feb 13 2008, 04:48 PM
TINCAN914   I was watching the news last night and the British...   Feb 13 2008, 04:56 PM
JPB   First thing on the list, make passionate love to ...   Feb 13 2008, 06:35 PM
carr914   Enjoy yourself Eric, never been off the continent,...   Feb 13 2008, 06:44 PM
okieflyr   My wife and I went to Paris for 2 days last May. ...   Feb 13 2008, 08:23 PM
ClayPerrine   Betty and I got married in 88, and we finally went...   Feb 13 2008, 09:34 PM
Eric_Shea   BoBos... check. (Where's Betty and the frying...   Feb 13 2008, 09:38 PM
r_towle   BoBos... check. (Where's Betty and the fryin...   Feb 13 2008, 11:23 PM
mudfoot76   Under no circumstance should you spend even one at...   Feb 13 2008, 10:10 PM
PRS914-6   Eric, go to a book store and get Rick Steve's ...   Feb 13 2008, 10:25 PM
jimtab   Stay in the City of light, wherever, La Louvre esp...   Feb 14 2008, 12:04 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   You gotta know that we all expect and want pics of...   Feb 14 2008, 12:07 AM
bigkensteele   I lived in Holland for most of 1997 and went to Pa...   Feb 14 2008, 12:09 AM
roadster fan   Eric, You can't go wrong with Rick Steeves...   Feb 14 2008, 12:57 AM
Skaferlatine   HELLO Everyone, I live in France and I am French b...   Feb 14 2008, 03:38 AM
johannes   Hi ! I am french too ... You are always welco...   Feb 14 2008, 09:10 AM
Eric_Shea   Johannes, Thanks for the info. I've already ...   Feb 14 2008, 12:06 PM
So.Cal.914   Have a good time and be careful Eric... :)   Feb 14 2008, 12:16 PM
Eric_Shea   All good ideas... Wondering about the river crui...   Feb 14 2008, 03:49 PM
bigkensteele   All good ideas... Wondering about the river cru...   Feb 15 2008, 12:59 AM
carreraguy   Eric: My wife, son and I were in Paris about 5 yea...   Feb 15 2008, 01:41 AM
Eric_Shea   Digging lots of nuggets from that. Thanks Tom. I...   Feb 15 2008, 10:19 AM
okieflyr   :agree: We took the glass boat tour from the Tower...   Feb 15 2008, 10:41 AM
Ian Stott   Not a good idea to " pretend " you are C...   Feb 15 2008, 11:14 AM
PThompson509   Hiya, I've been to Paris several times, and h...   Feb 15 2008, 11:56 AM
mudfoot76   Learn some basic french phrases Let me help: E...   Feb 15 2008, 12:40 PM
tdgray   So... I'll be in Frankfurt 3/11 through 3/14 ...   Feb 15 2008, 12:37 PM
balljoint   If you see a pile of flowers at the entrance to a ...   Feb 15 2008, 12:53 PM
PThompson509   C'est Parfait! Merci mudfoot. :) I had ...   Feb 15 2008, 12:55 PM
mudfoot76   C'est Parfait! Merci mudfoot. :) De ...   Feb 15 2008, 02:30 PM
johannes   Anyone tested "Paris tour in 2CV" ? htt...   Feb 15 2008, 03:07 PM
Eric_Shea   Best mode of transportation from Nord station to h...   Feb 15 2008, 03:25 PM
jaminM3   I have my "pick" of hotels (insider con...   Feb 15 2008, 04:18 PM
Eric_Shea   :D E49.00 per night. :blink:   Feb 15 2008, 04:57 PM
Eric_Shea   Agreed... besides; I'm proud to be an Americ...   Feb 15 2008, 08:08 PM
rebelmdot   Agreed... besides; I'm proud to be an Ameri...   Feb 15 2008, 08:19 PM
PRS914-6   I have been to a LOT of different countries. I al...   Feb 15 2008, 08:44 PM
356   Ok, now that we know your married...is the wife go...   Feb 16 2008, 12:25 AM
Mrs. K   Hi Eric! I have a Doctor friend who has a fren...   Feb 16 2008, 01:08 AM
ThinAir   I'm envious. I was in France for 3 weeks last...   Feb 16 2008, 01:47 AM
hedfurst   Eric, 2 days is not much time for Paris. it is one...   Feb 16 2008, 10:30 AM
kwales   A perfect day in Paris is catching the flight out....   Feb 16 2008, 06:48 PM
356   A perfect day in Paris is catching the flight out...   Feb 16 2008, 08:08 PM
crash914   I almost forgot... take a shower curtain....dont ...   Feb 16 2008, 06:56 PM
Eric_Shea   Wondering... is Savoir Faire really everywhere?   Feb 16 2008, 08:13 PM
SharonG   If you ever have the opportunity to visit south Fr...   Feb 16 2008, 09:06 PM
PRS914-6   Well, luck of the draw.....I met a 35 year old Fre...   Feb 21 2008, 11:25 AM
Eric_Shea   OK... so no one got the 60's cat/mouse cartoon...   Feb 21 2008, 07:20 PM
PRS914-6   Paul, big help. Where were you skiing because we...   Feb 21 2008, 07:47 PM
Eric_Shea   Well... it turned out perfect. Thanks for all you...   Mar 18 2008, 11:53 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Very nice, but, the last two pics, standing in the...   Mar 18 2008, 12:04 PM
ericread   This should be very helpful for understanding the ...   Mar 18 2008, 12:14 PM
Eric_Shea   Definately not brave. ;) See the lines? There...   Mar 18 2008, 12:36 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   See the lines? There's a little median the...   Mar 18 2008, 01:32 PM
ConeDodger   Eric, Get your butt home... Vanessa just found out...   Mar 18 2008, 01:08 PM
johannes   Very nice pictures ! ... We want more ! .....   Mar 18 2008, 02:28 PM
ThinAir   I'm glad to hear that you had a great visit. ...   Mar 18 2008, 09:38 PM
Eric_Shea   It's easy to take great pictures there... beau...   Mar 18 2008, 09:59 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Merci, but doesn't the last pic belong in the ...   Mar 18 2008, 10:03 PM
LarryR   I have only been there once 14 years ago. I flew o...   Mar 18 2008, 10:09 PM
Mrs. K   Awesome pics Eric! :trophy: I'd love to...   Mar 21 2008, 02:55 PM
Eric_Shea   I'm almost as u-g-l-y as Z. :D   Mar 21 2008, 04:30 PM
Mrs. K   I'm almost as u-g-l-y as Z. :D Ummmmmmm...   Mar 22 2008, 01:39 AM
Beanie Boy   :agree:   Mar 21 2008, 04:38 PM
Gint   Stop! This is making me... :sick:   Mar 22 2008, 08:38 AM


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