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> Leaner can mean cooler running, mixture experiments
lapuwali
post May 8 2004, 01:10 PM
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In another thread, TimT posted a graph produced by Pratt & Whitney showing the relationship of CGT, EGT, mixture, and power in air-cooled aero engines. Despite the often held assertion here and elsewhere that "our" engines need to run rich to stay cool, the chart showed that CHT fell as the mixture got leaner from "best power" (about 13:1). It also fell as it got richer from best power. There was a question in my mind how well this generalized to the Type IV.

My 1.7 w/ Webers had been, I knew, running rich on the idle circuits, and I was waiting on a set of leaner idle jets. These showed up, and I installed them this morning (50s down from 55s). Crisper running, and I hope much better gas mileage (was below 20mpg). My CHT gauge held the real surprise, however. It's installed on the hottest cylinder (No. 3), and previously warmed up very quickly to 300dF after just 30 seconds or so after a cold start. It would climb to 350dF as soon as any load was put on the engine, and up to 400dF when pulling up a two-mile long 6% grade near my house. With the leaner idle jets and no other changes, it was much slower to warm up, and never exceeded 275dF idling and puttering around the neighborhood at 25mph. Up that long hill, it just barely touched 350dF.

I don't have a wideband mixture meter (yet), so I have no idea if I'm still rich or somewhat lean. Drivability is still good, so it can't be all that lean. I haven't yet tried to do a plug check (used to be sooty black). In any case, it's one data point that seems to support the P&W chart.
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lapuwali   Leaner can mean cooler running   May 8 2004, 01:10 PM
r_towle   what size carbs are you running??? Rich   May 8 2004, 02:58 PM
lapuwali   40IDFs, 28mm venturies. 50 idles, 115 mains, 200 ...   May 8 2004, 03:17 PM
Jake Raby   your jetting is spot on for that combo of venturi....   May 8 2004, 07:10 PM
TimT   Jake, lean is cool too have a look at this arti...   May 8 2004, 07:47 PM
lapuwali   I'm pretty familiar with the characteristics o...   May 8 2004, 09:24 PM
F4i   The graph is correct and you will run cooler at le...   May 9 2004, 12:59 AM
airsix  
  May 9 2004, 10:36 AM
F4i   :agree: Thats how I fly em and thats how I reccom...   May 9 2004, 10:53 AM
lapuwali   I suppose the real thing to take away from this is...   May 9 2004, 12:31 PM
Bleyseng   I think what has been tossed around is not to tune...   May 9 2004, 12:37 PM
Jake Raby   Put an aircooled engine at 17.7:1 and watch it fry...   May 9 2004, 12:51 PM
lapuwali   Jake, are you willing to divulge one of those CHT/...   May 9 2004, 01:41 PM
TimT   Well I knew the air frame mechanics would come out...   May 9 2004, 06:54 PM
Jake Raby   Tell ya what.. Tomorrow I'll do a few test for...   May 9 2004, 07:46 PM
DNHunt   First let's make sure everyone is on the same ...   May 10 2004, 08:11 AM
Jake Raby   What good is lean running and saving money on fuel...   May 10 2004, 08:26 AM
Rockaria   I think we need a book written called "Zen and t...   May 10 2004, 08:42 AM
Jake Raby   I have been writing a book similar to this since 1...   May 10 2004, 09:29 AM
Rockaria     May 10 2004, 10:40 AM
DNHunt   Jeff I'm not running a flyback board, I'm...   May 10 2004, 10:55 AM
lapuwali   Injectors are mechanical devices, after all, and t...   May 10 2004, 11:55 AM
DNHunt   I hope I didn't mislead anyone. I'm perfec...   May 10 2004, 01:56 PM
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