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> 75 LJet will not fire, PHASE 2: still not starting...Phase 3: not idling, PHASE 4: fine tune!
malcolm2
post Jul 9 2013, 08:09 PM
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Summary: rescued 75 with L-jet: HAM repaired heads, 9550 cam from Type 4 store, All engine harnesses from Bowlsby, 96mm pistons from type 4 store (1911cc), Injectors cleaned by Cruzin Performance...(twice), engine sat for 12 mths while I worked on rust from sitting for 10 years, etc...

A couple weekends ago I went thru EXTENSIVE troubleshooting with Timothy_ND29 (huge thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) ), but the engine would not fire. That is the above link....

We ended up determining that my fresh injectors were clogged cause they sat for 12+ months. CruzinPerformance "woke them up" last week and they arrived back here today. I don't know what else to test: EVERYTHING operates, EVERYTHING:

1. 35+ psi fuel pressure
2. Starter turns engine with the key.
3. Noid lights at all injectors LIGHT
4. Spark plugs at all plugs SPARK
5. Injectors squirt (tested 1 and 2)
6. Valves actually move (I had to know it the damn thing was moving on the inside)

Here is the big one: After installing the fresh injectors, I did hear a slight fire, or poot of a backfire. Then nothing. I took the air box off and sprayed starting fluid in the intake while trying to start and STILL NOTHING. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

Question 1: How much spark do I need?
Question 2: How much squirt do I need?

Both happened, but they seemed weak, or small.

Need more help, I feel like the doctor that left a sponge in his patient.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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malcolm2   75 LJet will not fire   Jul 9 2013, 08:09 PM
jim_hoyland   Is the brown wire from the dual relay grounded ?   Jul 9 2013, 08:14 PM
malcolm2   Is the brown wire from the dual relay grounded ? ...   Jul 9 2013, 08:23 PM
timothy_nd28   Sounds like the FI is doing its job. However the t...   Jul 9 2013, 08:15 PM
malcolm2   Sounds like the FI is doing its job. However the ...   Jul 9 2013, 08:20 PM
malcolm2   Sounds like the FI is doing its job. However the ...   Jul 9 2013, 08:24 PM
davesprinkle   Sounds like the FI is doing its job. However the...   Jul 9 2013, 08:57 PM
timothy_nd28   No need, your FI is working. We went thru the whol...   Jul 9 2013, 08:28 PM
malcolm2   No need, your FI is working. We went thru the who...   Jul 9 2013, 08:42 PM
Mblizzard   I had a similar problem many years ago. It turned ...   Jul 9 2013, 08:43 PM
malcolm2   I had a similar problem many years ago. It turned...   Jul 9 2013, 08:45 PM
Mblizzard   I had a similar problem many years ago. It turne...   Jul 9 2013, 09:18 PM
timothy_nd28   K, can you remove the valve cover and wiggle the r...   Jul 9 2013, 08:47 PM
malcolm2   K, can you remove the valve cover and wiggle the ...   Jul 9 2013, 08:57 PM
malcolm2   [quote name='timothy_nd28' post='1892665' date='J...   Jul 9 2013, 09:13 PM
timothy_nd28   [quote name='timothy_nd28' post='1892665' date='J...   Jul 9 2013, 09:17 PM
malcolm2   You should have valve lash wiggle on both rockers...   Jul 9 2013, 09:25 PM
The Cabinetmaker   [quote name='timothy_nd28' post='1892665' date='J...   Jul 10 2013, 09:06 AM
timothy_nd28   Don't put anything into the spark plug hole   Jul 9 2013, 09:22 PM
Mblizzard   Verify that you #1 viewed from sitting in the car...   Jul 9 2013, 09:28 PM
timothy_nd28   I find it easy to put the passenger rear wheel on ...   Jul 9 2013, 09:28 PM
malcolm2   I find it easy to put the passenger rear wheel on...   Jul 9 2013, 09:42 PM
timothy_nd28   It's dangerous, anything you put in that spark...   Jul 9 2013, 09:52 PM
malcolm2   It's dangerous, anything you put in that spar...   Jul 9 2013, 09:57 PM
malcolm2   [quote name='timothy_nd28' post='1892703' date='J...   Jul 9 2013, 10:07 PM
timothy_nd28   Never mind the position of the dizzy's rotor f...   Jul 9 2013, 10:07 PM
malcolm2   Never mind the position of the dizzy's rotor ...   Jul 9 2013, 10:14 PM
timothy_nd28   Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotch ...   Jul 9 2013, 10:23 PM
malcolm2   Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotch...   Jul 9 2013, 10:26 PM
malcolm2   Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotc...   Jul 9 2013, 10:50 PM
timothy_nd28   Spin the dizzy so it's pointing at the number ...   Jul 9 2013, 10:28 PM
timothy_nd28   Which way did you turn the distributor to align th...   Jul 9 2013, 10:52 PM
malcolm2   Which way did you turn the distributor to align t...   Jul 9 2013, 10:56 PM
timothy_nd28   Try moving the dizzy counter clockwise a smidge an...   Jul 9 2013, 11:01 PM
malcolm2   Try moving the dizzy counter clockwise a smidge a...   Jul 9 2013, 11:09 PM
timothy_nd28   Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v k...   Jul 9 2013, 11:12 PM
malcolm2   Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v ...   Jul 9 2013, 11:12 PM
malcolm2   Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v...   Jul 9 2013, 11:26 PM
Bob L.   :popcorn:   Jul 9 2013, 11:21 PM
timothy_nd28   Can you post a pic of the rotor, so we can see whi...   Jul 9 2013, 11:28 PM
malcolm2   Can you post a pic of the rotor, so we can see wh...   Jul 9 2013, 11:35 PM
timothy_nd28   Ok, put the cap on and put only the number one plu...   Jul 9 2013, 11:38 PM
malcolm2   Ok, put the cap on and put only the number one pl...   Jul 9 2013, 11:44 PM
timothy_nd28   With your volt meter, set it to resistance. Measur...   Jul 9 2013, 11:49 PM
malcolm2   With your volt meter, set it to resistance. Measu...   Jul 10 2013, 12:00 AM
timothy_nd28   The vacuum can may be limiting the rotation. Try m...   Jul 10 2013, 12:03 AM
malcolm2   The vacuum can may be limiting the rotation. Try ...   Jul 10 2013, 12:12 AM
timothy_nd28   I'm sorry, I'm not thinking here. The roto...   Jul 10 2013, 12:16 AM
malcolm2   I'm sorry, I'm not thinking here. The rot...   Jul 10 2013, 12:29 AM
timothy_nd28   I'm turning in for the night, lets pick this u...   Jul 10 2013, 12:31 AM
malcolm2   I'm turning in for the night, lets pick this ...   Jul 10 2013, 12:33 AM
timothy_nd28   After re-reading part of this thread I made a assu...   Jul 10 2013, 08:30 AM
malcolm2   After re-reading part of this thread I made a ass...   Jul 10 2013, 12:04 PM
Java2570   :agree: I just went through a similar issue wi...   Jul 10 2013, 09:31 AM
malcolm2   :agree: I just went through a similar issue w...   Jul 10 2013, 11:50 AM
Java2570   :agree: I just went through a similar issue ...   Jul 10 2013, 12:23 PM
stugray   No, you should not need to pull the drive gear. ...   Jul 10 2013, 11:14 AM
malcolm2   I have come up with a way to manually rotate the e...   Jul 10 2013, 06:08 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Forget the mark you made. Where does the rotor poi...   Jul 10 2013, 06:19 PM
malcolm2   Forget the mark you made. Where does the rotor po...   Jul 10 2013, 06:31 PM
timothy_nd28   Number one plug wire still on the right rear tower...   Jul 10 2013, 07:08 PM
malcolm2   Number one plug wire still on the right rear towe...   Jul 10 2013, 07:17 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Number one plug wire still on the right rear tow...   Jul 10 2013, 08:04 PM
Bob L.   [quote name='malcolm2' post='1893198' date='Jul 1...   Jul 10 2013, 08:09 PM
malcolm2   [quote name='malcolm2' post='1893198' date='Jul 1...   Jul 10 2013, 08:13 PM
stugray   When you think you are at TDC based on valves, che...   Jul 10 2013, 07:10 PM
malcolm2   When you think you are at TDC based on valves, ch...   Jul 10 2013, 07:39 PM
timothy_nd28   Move the number one at the right rear tower and st...   Jul 10 2013, 07:50 PM
malcolm2   Move the number one at the right rear tower and s...   Jul 10 2013, 08:09 PM
malcolm2   should I go ahead and adjust the valves on the dri...   Jul 10 2013, 07:56 PM
timothy_nd28   Are you using aluminum or chrome moly pushrods?   Jul 10 2013, 07:59 PM
malcolm2   Are you using aluminum or chrome moly pushrods? ...   Jul 10 2013, 08:29 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Purchased awhile back from the type 4 store and...   Jul 11 2013, 07:26 AM
malcolm2   Purchased awhile back from the type 4 store an...   Jul 11 2013, 09:06 AM
Mblizzard   I will be traveling to Nashville next Tuesday to g...   Jul 10 2013, 08:30 PM
malcolm2   I will be traveling to Nashville next Tuesday to ...   Jul 10 2013, 08:35 PM
malcolm2   Timothy, what's on you mind to do next?   Jul 10 2013, 08:48 PM
timothy_nd28   If you truly found TDC, I do like the idea of pull...   Jul 10 2013, 08:59 PM
malcolm2   If you truly found TDC, I do like the idea of pul...   Jul 10 2013, 09:09 PM
timothy_nd28   I'll be honest, every time I split the case, I...   Jul 10 2013, 09:19 PM
malcolm2   I'll be honest, every time I split the case, ...   Jul 10 2013, 09:54 PM
timothy_nd28   The intake valve should be last to move before tdc...   Jul 10 2013, 09:27 PM
malcolm2   The intake valve should be last to move before td...   Jul 10 2013, 09:31 PM
stugray   I just went through this entire process. Can you ...   Jul 10 2013, 09:39 PM
timothy_nd28   You may need to pry the hold down bracket while pu...   Jul 10 2013, 09:59 PM
stugray   Read my post above first, and the link then IF tha...   Jul 10 2013, 10:00 PM
malcolm2   Read my post above first, and the link then IF th...   Jul 11 2013, 05:50 AM
The Cabinetmaker   There is no white mark unless someone else made on...   Jul 11 2013, 06:51 AM
malcolm2   There is no white mark unless someone else made o...   Jul 11 2013, 09:02 AM
timothy_nd28   :agree:   Jul 11 2013, 07:03 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Ok, I understand. you will be ok. just remember th...   Jul 11 2013, 09:12 AM
stugray   Ok, so there might not be white paint on the mar...   Jul 11 2013, 09:14 AM
stugray   I just did a search and found some say that the ma...   Jul 11 2013, 09:38 AM
The Cabinetmaker   If it were my old ass, I'd just go with option...   Jul 11 2013, 09:44 AM
Java2570   Factory notch will be at the top of the trans @ TD...   Jul 11 2013, 09:47 AM
malcolm2   So to verify TDC, I need to look for or feel for t...   Jul 11 2013, 10:17 AM
stugray   Confusion resolved: I have the notch (visible at t...   Jul 11 2013, 10:27 AM
stugray   I followed Jake's video and installed the dr...   Jul 11 2013, 10:31 AM
Bob L.   Malcolm, Have you tried the #1 wire on the right r...   Jul 11 2013, 10:54 AM
Bartlett 914   Did you ever check your compression?   Jul 11 2013, 11:02 AM
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