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> Forcing Air into the Engine Compartment, Engine Cooling ???
Highland
post Aug 14 2021, 08:57 AM
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I'm guessing it's been tried, but is there a downside to forcing fresh oncoming air into the engine compartment? I've read that removing the rain tray does not help cooling which tells me the 2 engine compartment side vents are more than adequate to feed the centrifugal cooling fan; so perhaps increasing engine compartment air pressure and reducing relative air temperature would help.

So don't laugh too hard at the pictures (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) It's a first pass attempt.

I did a couple of runs on my normal joy ride and am qualitatively seeing about a 5 to 10 degree head temp reduction and quicker cooling to normal temps after an uphill grade. Also cruising at 65mph in 5th I'm seeing about a 10 degree reduction in steady state temperature. I have a big hole in the back due to a 3D print problem and my duct tape keeps on flying loose so not getting full duct air. I just have a VDO head temp gauge on #3 plug. As many of you know the VDO has 50 degree hash marks; so not real accurate reads.

So is it correct that head temps are not affected by outside air temp, that's an oil temp thing?

Has anyone tried this? The stock grating is still in place. Can I be doing any harm?

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Highland   Forcing Air into the Engine Compartment   Aug 14 2021, 08:57 AM
SO.O.C914er   I’ve been trying to think of ways to bring more ...   Aug 14 2021, 09:06 AM
Chris914n6   I’ve been trying to think of ways to bring more...   Aug 14 2021, 09:53 PM
Craigers17   Kinda reminds me of the old swamp coolers.....only...   Aug 14 2021, 10:13 AM
arbitrary   Years ago I played around with a data logger and a...   Aug 14 2021, 10:35 AM
Mikey914   I think he’s on to something here. The area is a...   Aug 14 2021, 11:05 AM
Chris914n6   The rain tray is not a tight fit so plenty of air ...   Aug 14 2021, 11:22 AM
Highland   I think Jake R said removing the rain tray made no...   Aug 14 2021, 11:25 AM
Olympic 914   I think Jake R said removing the rain tray made ...   Aug 14 2021, 12:01 PM
Highland   Although I have no scientific evidence, My p...   Aug 14 2021, 02:37 PM
Montreal914   I would use a temperature compensated thermocouple...   Aug 14 2021, 11:32 AM
barefoot   I would use a temperature compensated thermocoupl...   Aug 14 2021, 02:20 PM
914werke   Perhaps Im dense. :rolleyes: What are you trying...   Aug 14 2021, 12:38 PM
JamesM   Are you running a pair of these? https://914rubb...   Aug 14 2021, 03:18 PM
moto914   +1 on Sharing cooling ideas. +1 on bringing air fr...   Aug 14 2021, 05:00 PM
maf914   Highland, Interesting approach to forcing more ai...   Aug 14 2021, 05:16 PM
wonkipop   biggest problem a 14 has got is getting rid of the...   Aug 14 2021, 06:16 PM
JeffBowlsby   Read these 914 aerodynamics papers:   Aug 14 2021, 09:29 PM
Chris914n6   Read these 914 aerodynamics papers: There is a f...   Aug 14 2021, 10:55 PM
Superhawk996   Read these 914 aerodynamics papers: There is a ...   Aug 15 2021, 09:02 AM
wonkipop   Read these 914 aerodynamics papers: good stuff ...   Aug 14 2021, 10:57 PM
Krieger   I've been thinking about this too for my track...   Aug 14 2021, 10:18 PM
nein14   What about these on a quarter with GT flares   Aug 15 2021, 08:32 AM
Mikey914   I'm interested. We could thermoform some ducts...   Aug 15 2021, 08:33 AM
mlindner   Mikey, just installed your air deflectors on my 6 ...   Aug 15 2021, 09:08 AM
Literati914   Seems to me that the main heat issues (on a street...   Aug 15 2021, 09:52 AM
914werke   What are you trying to accomplish? Reducing head ...   Aug 15 2021, 10:22 AM
Literati914   As to what I'm trying to accomplish: Just try...   Aug 15 2021, 10:37 AM
914sgofast2   Anyone tried gluing strips of yard to the top and ...   Aug 15 2021, 11:32 AM
JeffBowlsby   Next question? Thse are al found on my 914 Classi...   Aug 15 2021, 12:21 PM
914_teener   Next question? Thse are al found on my 914 Class...   Aug 15 2021, 02:29 PM
BeatNavy   My thought was to gain the difference in the exha...   Aug 15 2021, 03:01 PM
914_teener   My thought was to gain the difference in the exh...   Aug 15 2021, 04:48 PM
914werke   I'm excited to see how they work and if the c...   Aug 15 2021, 03:18 PM
BeatNavy   I'm excited to see how they work and if the ...   Aug 15 2021, 03:26 PM
wonkipop   a detail i used to notice about vw type 3s was the...   Aug 15 2021, 05:15 PM
djway   I'm guessing it's been tried, but is ther...   Aug 15 2021, 09:21 PM
Shivers   Seems to have good air flow on the rocker and they...   Aug 16 2021, 05:58 AM
Jamie   Seems to have good air flow on the rocker and the...   Aug 16 2021, 09:42 AM
JmuRiz   ... And worked well on the Ferrari BB http://w...   Aug 16 2021, 10:35 AM
Mikey914   Honestly, The best cooling is probably obtained by...   Aug 16 2021, 10:21 AM
johnhora   Another pic of the engine lid airflow... the q...   Aug 16 2021, 11:06 AM
Superhawk996   There really is no need for guessing what is possi...   Aug 16 2021, 05:56 PM
Maltese Falcon   I tried this simple air scoop attached to the righ...   Aug 17 2021, 12:22 AM
wonkipop   @Superhawk996 great set of figures, good explana...   Aug 17 2021, 01:26 AM
stownsen914   Aircooled engines need all the cooling help they c...   Aug 17 2021, 06:05 AM
Literati914   Another pic of the engine lid airflow... I w...   Aug 17 2021, 11:30 AM
914sgofast2   Another pic of the engine lid airflow... I ...   Aug 17 2021, 01:08 PM
arbitrary   Apologies if I’m missing something but isn’t l...   Aug 17 2021, 02:04 PM
brant   2 cents from my experiments with added air. We us...   Aug 17 2021, 02:05 PM
PCH   Maybe the hell hole is just the poor over heated c...   Aug 17 2021, 04:06 PM
PCH   Superhawk996 is right on. The most important thing...   Aug 17 2021, 06:12 PM
wonkipop   right on @PCH and [b]@[url=http://www.914world....   Aug 18 2021, 03:43 AM
KSCarrera   At the last hillclimb event 10 days ago, it rained...   Aug 18 2021, 08:02 AM
Highland   Even though my scoop experiments to date have been...   Sep 10 2021, 04:40 PM
bbrock   Even though my scoop experiments to date have bee...   Sep 10 2021, 05:43 PM
Superhawk996   Even though my scoop experiments to date have be...   Sep 11 2021, 04:20 PM
r_towle   The fan will only move a fixed amount of air, or C...   Sep 11 2021, 03:16 PM
brant   The fan will only move a fixed amount of air, or ...   Sep 11 2021, 05:30 PM
Dave_Darling   One point that some seem to be forgetting is that ...   Sep 11 2021, 07:22 PM
wonkipop   One point that some seem to be forgetting is that...   Sep 11 2021, 09:52 PM
Rand   I'm late to the game so flame me. #1 You canno...   Sep 11 2021, 07:44 PM
emerygt350   Having cooler air in the engine compartment can on...   Sep 12 2021, 05:42 PM
emerygt350   Dbl post   Sep 12 2021, 05:44 PM


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