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> Gearbox issue, Am I in for a rebuild?
TRS63
post Mar 8 2023, 02:56 AM
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Hello all,

I think that my gearbox might need a rebuild but needs confirmation for you all with more experience (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

First, the facts:
-car is my 1974 1,8l, side-shift gearbox, total mileage unknown, no bill about any rebuilt.
-Short shift from Martin Bott in it since ~3000kms, adjustment fine, never had issues.
-all bushings are 2 years/5-6000kms old so quite new
-Gearbox-oil is ~2500kms/8 months old

The issues I encounter:
-since I own it, it NEVER was possible, from 2nd to 1st to downshift while the car is rolling (by impossible I mean impossible without huge grinding).. The PO told me at that time that it is like that with all 914s, never checked and trusted him but unsure now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) is it true? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Since I own it I always put first only with the car not rolling, otherwise stayed in 2nd gear. .if the car is not moving, no issue at all putting first gear (or reverse), no grinding,..

-since the last 2 rides (40kms?), I have grinding issues putting the 2nd gear downshift or highshift. Increased and at the beginning I thought it was when the car was cold, now I don't think so and it happens every ~2 of 3 shiftings (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
3-5th gears are absolutely fine. And as I can select them fine and without any issue, I assume clutch and shifter setting to be fine, do you agree ?

-it seems to be a couple drop under the gearbox, but nothing big. Can't think that a small leakage could cause such issues, what do you think?

My plan:
-put the car on the lift, check every bushings and linkage adjustment
-if I see any issue: bushes, leakage,... I will fix it and try
-if good..Happy me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
-if not..gearbox out and rebuild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

What are your thoughts on my issues?

Thanks

Antoine
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TRS63   Gearbox issue   Mar 8 2023, 02:56 AM
peteinjp   Defiantly refresh any linkage issues- makes a huge...   Mar 8 2023, 04:27 AM
930cabman   Defiantly refresh any linkage issues- makes a hug...   Mar 8 2023, 05:58 AM
TRS63   Oops, forgot to mention, all bushings are 2 years/...   Mar 8 2023, 04:59 AM
TRS63   Thanks, I will check it as a first! One thing...   Mar 8 2023, 06:55 AM
rhodyguy   Difficulty in R AND 1st?   Mar 8 2023, 07:45 AM
TRS63   No! The first gear comes without grinding only...   Mar 8 2023, 08:08 AM
rhodyguy   I have never attempted to put the trans in 1st whi...   Mar 8 2023, 08:21 AM
Cairo94507   You should be able to select 1st gear while rollin...   Mar 8 2023, 08:49 AM
RoadGlue   You should be able to select 1st gear while rolli...   Mar 8 2023, 02:08 PM
KELTY360   You should be able to select 1st gear while roll...   Mar 8 2023, 11:36 PM
brant   Tighten your clutch   Mar 8 2023, 08:52 AM
mgphoto   There is no syncro between 2nd and 1st for down sh...   Mar 8 2023, 09:40 AM
NARP74   While you are checking things, look at your pedal ...   Mar 8 2023, 09:56 AM
TRS63   Thanks a lot for the support !! I won...   Mar 8 2023, 10:12 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   grinding with a loose clutch cable occurs first at...   Mar 8 2023, 10:48 AM
bugat5speed   Hi, there is of course a synchro for downshifting ...   Mar 8 2023, 10:56 AM
DRPHIL914   Defiantly refresh any linkage issues- makes a hug...   Mar 8 2023, 02:52 PM
TRS63   Hi, there is of course a synchro for downshifting...   Mar 8 2023, 10:42 PM
Van B   I had that issue when I bought my car. It was bush...   Mar 8 2023, 11:01 PM
Van B   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Mar 8 2023, 11:03 PM
TRS63   I had that issue when I bought my car. It was bus...   Mar 8 2023, 11:16 PM
wonkipop   i dunno. i never force mine into 1st on a downshi...   Mar 9 2023, 04:56 AM
r_towle   Because 1st gear has no synchro, the only way to p...   Mar 9 2023, 10:56 AM
peteinjp   I actually slide into 1st just before the car stop...   Mar 9 2023, 04:40 PM
Dave_Darling   I'm pretty sure there is a synchro on 1st gear...   Mar 9 2023, 09:59 PM
TRS63   So, I put the 914 yesterday on the lift : http://...   Mar 10 2023, 01:31 AM
bugat5speed   Hi, can it be that you mounted the "Sperrband...   Mar 10 2023, 01:47 AM
930cabman   Just love your ancient barn, but not too weather t...   Mar 10 2023, 01:00 PM
mlindner   I'm with 930cabman, that is a grand barn. Love...   Mar 10 2023, 02:35 PM
nihil44   Antoine, You mentioned in post #13 in this threa...   Mar 10 2023, 05:00 PM
930cabman   Antoine, You mentioned in post #13 in this thre...   Mar 10 2023, 05:26 PM


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