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> Dual carb question, Dellorto 40s on a 1.8L to be exact
terrymason
post Jul 14 2007, 07:00 PM
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The problem - The car will go very lean around 2500 rpm, as if the pump jets were too small.

History:
New fuel pump (3.5 PSI to each carb)
55 idle jets
55 pump jets
140 main jets
175 air correctors
These carbs are new to the car, and I'm trying to dial them in.

The car is lean when I first start it (16 / 17 on my air / fuel gauge), but then levels out to a nice 14.7 idle when warmed up. While driving, I can give the car 20% or so of the pedal, and drive up to highway speeds nicely, but when I goose it, it will go very lean (18-22 on my gauge) followed by a series of backfires and loss of power. I started off with 35 pump jets, and have moved up to 55s, which appear to be the most popular around here. I've also adjusted the pump jet linkage, from the nut fully loosened, and moved it in as far as it would go before affecting the main throttle shaft (like 60 turns or something).

What do you guys think, do I need 75 pump jets?
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terrymason   Dual carb question   Jul 14 2007, 07:00 PM
Grelber   Send JR91472 a PM. He has a 1.8 w/ dual dell...   Jul 14 2007, 08:37 PM
BxtrBill   40 Dells were usually equipped with 34mm venturis ...   Jul 14 2007, 11:22 PM
terrymason   I've tried quite a few idle jets from 46 to 60...   Jul 15 2007, 12:44 AM
Blood red 914-6gt   The problem is that dellortos suck. Sorry if you l...   Jul 15 2007, 01:12 AM
Paul Illick   The problem is that dellortos suck. Sorry if you ...   Jul 15 2007, 05:23 AM
type11969   Terry- You shouldn't be running that lean at ...   Jul 15 2007, 07:18 AM
terrymason   OK, I have made some big headway on this. I pulle...   Jul 15 2007, 05:26 PM
BxtrBill   Ok...you got me on that one. The pump jets sit i...   Jul 15 2007, 08:12 PM
terrymason   Ok...you got me on that one. The pump jets sit ...   Jul 15 2007, 09:15 PM
type11969   Did you ever check out the vent size? You should ...   Jul 15 2007, 08:48 PM
BxtrBill   [/quote]The smallest vents CB had as of a month ag...   Jul 15 2007, 09:12 PM
terrymason   Oh..almost forgot.....if you look down the carb t...   Jul 15 2007, 09:18 PM
BxtrBill   Hm..hadn't considered someone might put them...   Jul 16 2007, 09:47 PM
terrymason   Did you ever check out the vent size? You should...   Jul 15 2007, 09:25 PM
type11969   You gotta try to adjust the linkage such that the ...   Jul 16 2007, 07:00 AM
904svo   Sounds like your venturis are too big for a smooth...   Jul 15 2007, 06:48 PM
type11969   .1, .2, .3, .4   Jul 16 2007, 07:02 AM
9146986   Going lean at 2500 probably isn't a function o...   Jul 16 2007, 07:41 AM
rhodyguy   i disagree with the "you should not be adjust...   Jul 16 2007, 09:02 AM
type11969   This is what I mean. Linkage disconnected, pull ou...   Jul 16 2007, 09:31 AM
rhodyguy   the linkage ABOSOLUTELY comes into play when the ...   Jul 16 2007, 10:04 AM
type11969   Wait, if both idle speed adjusting screws are rest...   Jul 16 2007, 10:22 AM
rhodyguy   ok. linkage off. flow set the same side to side wi...   Jul 16 2007, 10:39 AM
type11969   Well, if one rod is longer than the other and it f...   Jul 16 2007, 11:29 AM
Joe Ricard   So what are we betting here? What Kevin is saying...   Jul 16 2007, 12:10 PM
rhodyguy   i'm glad you see what i'm getting at joe. ...   Jul 16 2007, 12:28 PM
type11969   The bet was if you sync the carbs with the linkage...   Jul 16 2007, 12:34 PM
terrymason   I'm working in Seattle all this week, so won...   Jul 17 2007, 12:48 AM
terrymason   You can actually see the aux venturi below   Aug 2 2007, 02:40 PM
terrymason   etubes   Jul 17 2007, 12:51 AM
type11969   Looks like at least that one etube had one of the ...   Jul 17 2007, 07:22 AM
Joe Ricard   Them aren't webers are they. At least they loo...   Jul 17 2007, 04:13 PM
BxtrBill   Here's a pic of the venturi out of the carb......   Jul 17 2007, 10:04 PM
terrymason   So, there's a blunt end, and a tapered end? T...   Jul 17 2007, 11:29 PM
Twystd1   I just went through this with some other 914 breth...   Jul 18 2007, 03:06 AM
Joe Ricard   That' odd having the blunt end of the Venturi ...   Jul 18 2007, 06:00 AM
type11969   I'm pretty sure that is reversed, I'm almo...   Jul 18 2007, 07:03 AM
BxtrBill   I'm pretty sure that is reversed, I'm alm...   Jul 18 2007, 11:14 PM
terrymason   I'm back in town, and had some time to look at...   Jul 22 2007, 09:33 PM
BxtrBill   You might want to order some smaller main jets w...   Jul 23 2007, 09:48 PM
rhodyguy   i think your car is going to perform vastly better...   Jul 22 2007, 09:51 PM
Joe Ricard   Agreed, it "should" pull better down low...   Jul 23 2007, 08:42 AM
jr91472   Clayton is spot on regarding the dizzy. Go stock ...   Jul 23 2007, 08:48 AM
rhodyguy   your next decission is which intakes to run. i pos...   Jul 23 2007, 08:53 AM
jr91472   Yes please. I want to hear how the 30 vents work....   Jul 23 2007, 08:57 AM
mike373   Hey rhodyguy. I think you may have the manifold i...   Jul 23 2007, 11:03 PM
terrymason   well, I've made alot of progress! I have ...   Aug 2 2007, 12:23 PM
eric914   Not to hijack but I have 40 IDF's with an 009 ...   Aug 2 2007, 03:01 PM
BxtrBill   Well, seein' as how the hijacking has alread...   Aug 6 2007, 09:19 PM
9146986   I remember hearing that the best stock dist to run...   Aug 2 2007, 07:03 PM
Twystd1   If you choose to use a factory vacuum advance 914 ...   Aug 6 2007, 10:08 PM
terrymason   I'm ready to pull my hair out over this thing....   Aug 7 2007, 09:07 AM
type11969   I'm ready to pull my hair out over this thing...   Aug 7 2007, 11:41 AM
9146986   Sounds like trash in the fuel is clogging the jets...   Aug 7 2007, 09:36 AM
rhcb914   That to me sounds like a plugged idle jet. It...   Aug 7 2007, 09:39 AM
terrymason   OK, I can deal with that. I'll go home and pu...   Aug 7 2007, 12:12 PM
Joe Ricard   Yes I run one before the pump. and one after the p...   Aug 7 2007, 12:28 PM
terrymason   OK, New fuel filter after the fuel pump (2 now) I...   Aug 7 2007, 07:44 PM
terrymason   and another   Aug 7 2007, 07:45 PM
terrymason   another   Aug 7 2007, 07:46 PM
terrymason   and the last one   Aug 7 2007, 07:47 PM
Twystd1   intake leak i sniff. Is that an open vacuum port ...   Aug 8 2007, 03:16 AM
type11969   Those should seal when screwed in all the way . . ...   Aug 8 2007, 07:15 AM
terrymason   Success!!! Problem 1 - I think that s...   Aug 9 2007, 03:13 PM
Twystd1   It will still run MUCH better if you toss that diz...   Aug 9 2007, 07:22 PM
bjinright   So, Now what do you have running? I also have a 7...   Apr 24 2008, 11:00 AM
type11969   33 pumps seem awfully small. Verify that they are ...   Apr 24 2008, 12:18 PM
terrymason   do you have a wide band o2 sensor? It made it ALO...   Apr 24 2008, 01:38 PM
bjinright   do you have a wide band o2 sensor? It made it AL...   Apr 25 2008, 09:27 AM
type11969   Its tough to find the right etubes, and they are e...   Apr 25 2008, 10:05 AM
bjinright   If I wasn't absolutely positive that I would s...   Apr 25 2008, 10:52 AM
type11969   Yeah, the reamer sets are simple, just take your t...   Apr 25 2008, 11:09 AM
bjinright   Yeah, the reamer sets are simple, just take your ...   May 6 2008, 07:53 AM
bjinright   Finnally looked at my emo tubes. They looked sad ...   Apr 28 2008, 09:29 AM
type11969   Going back to the first page of this post it looks...   May 6 2008, 08:24 AM
rhodyguy   remember, when you make a change to the idle jets ...   May 6 2008, 08:28 AM
bjinright   remember, when you make a change to the idle jets...   May 6 2008, 12:11 PM
type11969   .2ccs per two throttle pulls I think, its in the d...   May 6 2008, 12:16 PM
rhodyguy   how low of an egine speed are we talking about whe...   May 6 2008, 04:03 PM
bjinright   how low of an egine speed are we talking about wh...   May 6 2008, 04:28 PM
rhodyguy   7k, do you hate your car? :blink: how old is the r...   May 6 2008, 04:35 PM
bjinright   7k, do you hate your car? :blink: how old is the ...   May 6 2008, 04:59 PM


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