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> OT: Kellzey (Political satire & opinion), Just wanted to tell you
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post Mar 12 2004, 11:32 AM
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post Mar 12 2004, 11:42 AM
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Karl,

Of course, I'm entitled to a private political opinion. I posted it, then edited it out. Truth is that I voted for the current president. I looked at it like this... if the guy was my neighbor, and I lent him my power saw - it would come back cleaner than when I gave it to him. Maybe that's nieve, but personal integrity is huge in my book. Algore was just plain slimy in my book.

I believe that damned near anyone could be president, if they surrounded themselves with enough good people.

I basically believe in tax cuts, reeling in the spiraling costs of "entitlement" programs, states rights, etc. But, I don't know if I'll vote for him again. It has nothing to do with the course that my job has taken. It's other stuff.

Ashcroft and the Patriot Act (I and II) scare the hell out of me. I don't like the Cheney/Halliburton scandals (btw, the food they serve my guys sucks ass) Colin Powell seems to have been shut out of the inner circle - and it's same BS / different day at the State Department. We talked tough about cutting non-supporting countries out of reconstruction in Iraq... but that's been reversed, too. Rumsfeld has serious (in his mind) problems with the Army, and had to get a retired General to come back to take the job as senior Army leader. Gas prices are high, and companies are dumping jobs to India and other cheap places.

George? I still think he's an okay guy. But if persists in selecting a cabinet like he's got now... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Not that voting for Kerry is any easier to swallow. He's just another liberal windbag.

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post Mar 12 2004, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(mikez @ Mar 12 2004, 11:12 AM)
Ya know...since I've grown up and embraced some Republican ethics....I have found it so hard to even vote one way or the other due to the morons that BOTH parties put up for election.

I mean c'mon....Bush is the guy you used to pick on in school...and Kerry...one word, Gomer.....

Bush and his corporate pals really hosed California, remember Enron and the electric power thing? All those guys fucking CA were Texans....not that CA wouldn't have done the same if we had the chance........he's also pissed off that the State voted for Gore.

He wouldn't help CA if his life depended on it.....NOT a ringing Kerry endorsement, ya think?

Constitutional Amendment? yeah, bring on "None of the Above".....make them start all over if the dorks that are nominated are unacceptable to the people.....

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Bush Sux and Kerry's not really better...

I think for 9/11 Bush was a good person to have, but the time is now to get the economy going again...

I think Perot would be better than the (lack of) choices we have right now... not that it makes him a GOOD choice by anyone's standards

a bad part about TX, for me, I feel like my vote won't count, because bush will still get the state's electoral votes.... out of hometown pride more than any concrete reason.... I didn't like him as Governor, I didn't vote for him... ever... but I don't know about Kerry either... such a djork ... but don't think he would make much of a difference overall...
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post Mar 12 2004, 12:06 PM
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Like bush or not he stands up for his own personal beleifs. I tend to take the guy at face value as that may not necessarily be wise, but that is the way i think. He will tell it like it is.

Kerry seems to change his beleifs depending on who he is talking to. A good leader will lead and not necessarily make everyone happy.

I am not a republican nor can I stand democrats. I like the stance of the libertarian party:

Pave my roads, defend my borders, and leave me and my money the fuck alone. Stop taking money from me and giving it to somepoor sob who won't work and earn his keep. You work you eat, your don't you die. Natural selection is great.

that is my politcs. Government should get out of my life.
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post Mar 12 2004, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Gint @ Mar 12 2004, 07:36 AM)
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Maybe another admin will.


Doubt it...

i would ...

but ya'all knew that already, didn't you?

common guys, this (see pic below) IS funny, even if you like bush (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Mar 12 2004, 12:40 PM
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Just wait till 914world.com gets shut down due to it being "indecent"

Howard Stern is the first one to fall from Bush and the religious right, we'll be next.....and no, I'm not a big Stern fan, I can listen to him for about 5 minutes at a time in the morning, but it's going to have a chilling effect on everyone sooner or later.
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post Mar 12 2004, 01:02 PM
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You know.... I respect what EVERYONE has posted so far. I like the way everyone thinks and respect everyone's opinion. This thread goes to show that we can all express our feelings about politics, maintain some sense of decorum, and have a chuckle to go along with it.

Lawrence, my remark wasn't a jab directed at you. I do appreciate your service and realize that Bush is your mostest superiorest officer. (Again, we all thank you for your service to our country and for defending our freedom). And I respect that you have an opinion beyond your career and feel obliged to make it known.

So.... what do we do? We can have a write-in candidate. Brad-hole for President!!!! Anyone?

Hey everyone! Have a nice weekend.
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post Mar 12 2004, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(kellzey @ Mar 12 2004, 11:02 AM)
So.... what do we do? We can have a write-in candidate. Brad-hole for President!!!! Anyone?

if arnold get's his way, you can vote for ME in 15 years! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Mar 12 2004, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(kellzey @ Mar 12 2004, 01:02 PM)
You know.... I respect what EVERYONE has posted so far. I like the way everyone thinks and respect everyone's opinion. This thread goes to show that we can all express our feelings about politics, maintain some sense of decorum, and have a chuckle to go along with it.

Lawrence, my remark wasn't a jab directed at you. I do appreciate your service and realize that Bush is your mostest superiorest officer. (Again, we all thank you for your service to our country and for defending our freedom). And I respect that you have an opinion beyond your career and feel obliged to make it known.

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what more can be said...

Mueller, I agree totally... I keep expecting to try and tune into Russ Martin on my way home and only hear static... or worse... tejano! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 12 2004, 02:26 PM
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Do either one of those "Fucks" drive 914's? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

So anyway... I had this problem with my car. I was wondering if any of you guys could help out...?
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post Mar 12 2004, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Mar 12 2004, 12:26 PM)
So anyway... I had this problem with my car. I was wondering if any of you guys could help out...?

Yeah, make it a qualification that the nominee has to have owned a 914 for ten years. In that time they will become civilized.

So Eric, if your car HAD a problem, why do you need help now? Almost anyone can assist you in getting it screwed up again. Whats up?
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post Mar 12 2004, 04:43 PM
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Humble at least... teeners have a way of doing that to you. (Except Brad!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

No problem with the car. It was just a futile attempt at changing the subject back to 914's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Mar 12 2004, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Mar 12 2004, 09:42 AM)
Karl,

Of course, I'm entitled to a private political opinion.  I posted it, then edited it out.  Truth is that I voted for the current president.  I  looked at it like this... if the guy was my neighbor, and I lent him my power saw - it would come back cleaner than when I gave it to him.  Maybe that's nieve, but personal integrity is huge in my book.  Algore was just plain slimy in my book.

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Lawrence,
I couldn't bring myself to vote for Gore either.

But any claims that Bush has any honesty or integrity went out the window for me long before he had any public aspirations on the presidency even. His election campaign against Richards was as dirty and dishonest as they come. His stock trading fraud from his Harken days wasn't very comforting. Nor was his skanky land deal with the Rangers' stadium. And on his military service record - WTF? I mean, really, I don't give a crap if he served or not, but why the coverup?

As the days of his presidency crawl by, he proves himself more and more to have only slightly more integrity than satan. From his appointment of the criminal Poindexter to a Pentagon advisory board, to Rove, Perl, and the poster-boy for ethics; Dick Cheney -

Kerry's looking to me, as not all that bad. I'm willing to give him a chance. And I'll just hope he lays off the gun legislation.

Sure, he's has his hypocritical moments. And his voting record can't be explained by sound-bites, that's for sure. But some of the crap that's said about his stance on security is pretty far fetched. I sure don't feel safer with bin Laden running around. Had we skipped Iraq, and sent 100,000 troops to Afghanistan, and played tough-guy with Pakistan, we would have pulled bin Laden out of his spider hole by now, and maybe, just maybe, 200 Spaniards wouldn't have gotten blown to pieces on 3/11.

Most of all - DAMN I wish Jesse Ventura would run for President. He may not be the most upstanding statesman, but at least he doesn't lie about who he is and what he's done with his life. I like a straight shooter, who will tell me the good AND the bad. Bush surely ain't one of those. And I'm not very confident about Kerry on that either.

Now on changing one's personal beliefs or stance; I'd rather have a leader who can admit when they're wrong, and change, than one who stubbornly stays on a path to our mutual detriment, out of sheer pride. And these bills that come down the pipe, they're complicated stacks of paper, often with ugly attached riders that have nothing to do with the main legislation, all filled with half truths, ugly compromises, and empty promises. It's easy to say "so and so is against X", but when there's something like Y attached to X, and you can't accept Y - maybe you'd pass X without the Y, or if it also had a Z." We mere mortals listening to the corporate-dominated media usually don't get the whole story. We get the sound bite.
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