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| JRust |
 Jan 22 2012, 06:43 PM
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I think it is overkill for you anyway Lyle. The engman kit will stiffen your car up alot. While your turbo suby setup gives you plenty of power. I don't think you will need the extra chassis stiffening too. Do the Engman kit & call it good for now. Get your tranny rebuilt, Installed & then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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| partwerks |
Jan 22 2012, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,619 Joined: 7-September 06 From: Grand Island, NE Member No.: 6,787 |
Thanks Jamie!
I was wondering if it was really necessary to do in addition to the Engman kit. I may just have him put the Engman kit in while the trans is being worked on in the mean time. |
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| Elliot Cannon |
Jan 22 2012, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jan 22 2012, 03:15 PM)  QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Jan 22 2012, 05:55 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jan 22 2012, 12:56 PM) Oh yeah! What exactly do you mean by that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Oh, I think you know, mister! I think you are awesome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jerkit.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Don't tease me you bitch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
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| Dr Evil |
Jan 22 2012, 08:53 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(JRust @ Jan 22 2012, 07:43 PM) I think it is overkill for you anyway Lyle. The engman kit will stiffen your car up alot. While your turbo suby setup gives you plenty of power. I don't think you will need the extra chassis stiffening too. Do the Engman kit & call it good for now. Get your tranny rebuilt, Installed & then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Sorry Lyle, I have been calling you Loyd. |
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| euro911 |
Jan 23 2012, 12:07 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,937 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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Listen up, Elliot, try to help me remember to give you a piece of my mind sometime during the RT-66 run (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/209.85.48.8-7300-1327298822.1.gif)
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| Elliot Cannon |
Jan 23 2012, 12:44 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Jan 22 2012, 10:07 PM) Listen up, Elliot, try to help me remember to give you a piece of my mind sometime during the RT-66 run (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/209.85.48.8-7300-1327298822.1.gif) I take it you'll be driving your pick-up truck then? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| euro911 |
Jan 23 2012, 01:02 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,937 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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Trying to get the ugly black car back on the road (again) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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| bulitt |
Jan 23 2012, 05:09 AM
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Anyone have a Metallica Black Album I can borrow? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
I appreciate the vendors who will take a part (like Engman) and over time working with someone (like McMark) make refinements so that it is basically a drop in piece for amateurs like me !!! I'm gonna personally support them so they stay active. |
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| charliew |
Jan 23 2012, 09:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
I will say almost anything fabricated can be improved on over time. But I also think it sucks that someone would want for free what another person spent a lot of time working out or improving from his long hours of designing and installing. We all need income from our efforts. Especially if the person asking cannot provide something of equal value in return. The spoken words do not cost anything so advice can be free. I would never ask someone for their engineering for free unless I could barter for it with something I could provide of value.
I make a lot of stuff and my time on earth is just as short as another person on this earth so I don't mind paying for stuff that saves me time and effort. |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 23 2012, 11:27 AM
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Seriously guys... Have you looked at the link? These a just drawings. So someone traced the factory kit that Weltmeister copied and has been selling for years and for their efforts they want to charge you $25 bucks?
So if I said... Please pay me $25 and I'll trace the outline of the factory kit that I stole the design from another guy who copied the factory kit, you'd belly up to the bar? If so... Let me get my #2 lead sharpened and open shop. Thread to bed... I get the rub but, with regard to these parts or this FleaBay link; this is pointless. Lyle, if I had a kit laying around, I'd trace it for you but, like I said earlier; it probably so much cheaper to grab one from Maddog in the vendor section than it would be to go through this hassle. Pointless guys. |
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| worn |
Jan 23 2012, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(partwerks @ Jan 21 2012, 05:06 PM) Would anyone happen to have paper drawings/pattern for making the plates for the chassis stiffening kit that I could use to copy over to the sheet metal to make the plates? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Chassi...=item1c22d5af47 I am new here relatively speaking, but I am really shocked at the kind of responses you are getting. It sounds like if you are part of the in club you can share things that involve intellectual property, but if you aren't known you get shown the door. As it happens it doesn't sound like there really was much bona fide owned IP involved anyway, since the product has a long lineage of tweaks and variation from its inception. With that said I do have a suggestion. You can see where all the parts go. If you have a car, you can also make your own patterns to go to the same places - the photos are all over everywhere. I use coke 24 pack boxes as templates. They fold like the steel and snip snip you have a pattern. They are right of course, the money is truly easier than doing it yourself. By a long shot. That is what I would do in this case. From the recent response I am thinking this list is more about buying stuff from the right people than making it yourself though. Made some enemies just now. |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Jan 23 2012, 01:04 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jan 23 2012, 09:27 AM) Seriously guys... Have you looked at the link? These a just drawings. So someone traced the factory kit that Weltmeister copied and has been selling for years and for their efforts they want to charge you $25 bucks? So if I said... Please pay me $25 and I'll trace the outline of the factory kit that I stole the design from another guy who copied the factory kit, you'd belly up to the bar? If so... Let me get my #2 lead sharpened and open shop. Thread to bed... I get the rub but, with regard to these parts or this FleaBay link; this is pointless. Lyle, if I had a kit laying around, I'd trace it for you but, like I said earlier; it probably so much cheaper to grab one from Maddog in the vendor section than it would be to go through this hassle. Pointless guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I have to say this thread is sad and a little disappointing. |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Jan 23 2012, 01:07 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(worn @ Jan 23 2012, 09:56 AM) I am new here relatively speaking, but I am really shocked at the kind of responses you are getting. It sounds like if you are part of the in club you can share things that involve intellectual property, but if you aren't known you get shown the door. As it happens it doesn't sound like there really was much bona fide owned IP involved anyway, since the product has a long lineage of tweaks and variation from its inception. With that said I do have a suggestion. You can see where all the parts go. If you have a car, you can also make your own patterns to go to the same places - the photos are all over everywhere. I use coke 24 pack boxes as templates. They fold like the steel and snip snip you have a pattern. They are right of course, the money is truly easier than doing it yourself. By a long shot. That is what I would do in this case. From the recent response I am thinking this list is more about buying stuff from the right people than making it yourself though. Made some enemies just now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) This thread is not a great indication of the people on here. Many will bend over backwards to help people they hardly know. Sorry you happened upon this. |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 23 2012, 01:18 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(partwerks @ Jan 22 2012, 04:52 PM) Thanks Jamie! I was wondering if it was really necessary to do in addition to the Engman kit. I may just have him put the Engman kit in while the trans is being worked on in the mean time. Engman kit is perfect. That other kit has only a couple of pieces that are actually any good. If you want to make something, put a bar between the firewall and the rear suspension ear, then reinforce the rear suspension mounting points, where the trailing arm shims go. Thats #1 and #2 for the most weak points in the body on the rear. |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 23 2012, 01:53 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,304 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE I am thinking this list is more about buying stuff from the right people than making it yourself though. Made some enemies just now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) If you're wanting to make enemies I'm sure you can but, that's not what we're about. This list has nothing to do with buying from the right people and more to do with helping each other. I don't know (Maddog) other than through the fact that his copies of the copies of the copies of the copies of the copies are the least expensive, so... again trying to help Lyle there. I've yet to see any grand changes to the design. So, if you 1) stick around and 2) look around, you'll find a great community of guys that often help out each other at no-cost or sometimes even great cost to themselves. We love the cars. We don't try to "steer a buy". There's over 7,000 members here and we love newbies and veterans alike. Hell, we even like Slits and "Canadians!!!" And I love Madison, Wisconsin (I'll take a 1/2lb of 8 year old cheddar when you get a chance... they can't seem to get that right here in Utah). So again... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) ...and, hang out, look around and you'll be rewarded with a rich group of friends that share a common bond. |
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| mepstein |
Jan 23 2012, 01:58 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 20,587 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Eric - I've already copied your 914-6 aluminum calipers. I'm getting them made in China. Available in Swiss of Cheddar. I'm calling them P&B calipers. You've got a problem with dat?
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 23 2012, 02:01 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,304 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Nada... have at it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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| Mark Henry |
Jan 23 2012, 02:21 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 23 2012, 02:58 PM) Eric - I've already copied your 914-6 aluminum calipers. I'm getting them made in China. Available in Swiss of Cheddar. I'm calling them P&B calipers. You've got a problem with dat? Do they also come in Shea butter?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| worn |
Jan 23 2012, 02:29 PM
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Winner of the Utah Twisted Joint Award Group: Members Posts: 3,560 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI and North Bend WA Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Thanks, I liked what I saw, and tell the truth, I saw the problem coming with the post. I would like to make my own engine mount, but I can see the problems with just asking for the measurements. If I do make my own, I will take my chances with my own skills. Still, it seemed like for someone wanting to do it on their own the response was a little bit large.
I plan to stick around because I need the help. At least that's what everyone says. |
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| dflesburg |
Jan 23 2012, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,722 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
Good God, What is this?
the 1985 Camaro forum? Carry on mullet bearers... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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