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| infraredcalvin |
Jan 7 2015, 10:06 PM
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Distracted Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,737 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California
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Whoops, should have know to check here first, better move fast...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=247829 |
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Jan 7 2015, 10:09 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Aggreed this is stupid
That the ideal replacement for the type 4 has not been found Instead there are a million different variations of what everyone thinks is The hot setup ( kind of cool ) in its own way |
| brant |
Jan 7 2015, 10:19 PM
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,167 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Aggreed this is stupid That the ideal replacement for the type 4 has not been found Instead there are a million different variations of what everyone thinks is The hot setup ( kind of cool ) in its own way Is this what you desire? 998cc? 3 massive cylinders and modern injection? Attached image(s)
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| mgp4591 |
Jan 7 2015, 10:22 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,908 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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That would be a great upgrade- Gene builds some good engines and does great work on the rest of the car too. He built that that car also- too bad there aren't any pictures posted, it's really nice. |
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Jan 7 2015, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Actually yeh , I never though 3 cylinder but if that is for real ,when driven with restraint I'm thinking like 40 mpg
I can t really see a flaw And yeh 3 is smaller then 4 |
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Jan 7 2015, 10:35 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Whoops, should have know to check here first, better move fast... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=247829 Yeh it looks good and if I'm understand ing correctly , Once I buy something like that I need virtually nothing else For the install . ? |
| TheCabinetmaker |
Jan 8 2015, 09:00 AM
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I drive my car everyday ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Your views on the 1.7 are totally wrong. My first 914, which I purchased new, was a 73 1.7. It would easily cruise at 95 all day. I've had a 914 as a daily driver for 42 years.
That 1.7 carried me 349,000 before it started smoking, so I rebuilt it to a 1911 and put another 150,000 miles on it before it succumbed to the rust monster. The 1.7 is the strongest, most reliable, best mileage of all the type IV's Btw, I agree with the others who said "stupid thread". |
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Jan 8 2015, 09:43 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Ok I stand corrected , if the 1.7
Can hack it then awesome . I just always had the impression that these were delicate engines Never to be pushed or abused , but 300k+. Miles sounds good too me . And honestly , non of the chicks I've picked up in this car have asked about the engine so Thank you to the world for.setting me straight .... I like submariners ,cause they don't have time for bull shit an neither do I. Fdr. "Until one has given all, one has given nothing." Old Charles " |
| Mueller |
Jan 8 2015, 09:52 AM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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Actually yeh , I never though 3 cylinder but if that is for real ,when driven with restraint I'm thinking like 40 mpg I can t really see a flaw And yeh 3 is smaller then 4 ^That worries me.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) Are you now only interested in the best gas mileage, hence the "small" motor? Didn't you ask about V8's last week? Yes that motor combo is real, I want to say it was put into a 911 or 912? If really serious and crazy at the same time, Ford now has a 1.0 turbo 3 cylinder....125hp and up to 148ftlbs of torque. Supposedly very useable and flat torque curve so no need to wind it up or worry about the low end. |
| Dave_Darling |
Jan 8 2015, 10:38 AM
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914 Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,335 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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The 1.7 is probably the most robust of all of the 914 engines. We know of examples that go well over 200K miles without being touched. (Though many of those start using copious amounts of oil near the end.)
The heads are less prone to cracking than the 2.0 ones, the crank is stiffer because it has thicker rod journals than the 2.0 (or other stroker) cranks, and they tend to be less stressed over all. If you don't like D-jet, you can put together a Megasquirt or Microsquirt system for not much money--but you'll have to spend time and effort (and some $) setting it up and tweaking it. Or you can slap a set of dual carbs on and tinker with them. Either way is going to be much simpler than working out how to fit a modern fuel injected water-cooled engine. That said, if you want Scooby power, go Scooby power! --DD |
| bakerj |
Jan 8 2015, 11:00 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 28-August 14 From: central IL Member No.: 17,833 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Jan 8 2015, 11:11 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
I don't mind d.jet but
There are extremely few wrenchs that will tune or work on it . And I'm not even technically proficient enough to change a head lamp So there in lies the problem ... So failure of even the most smallest component leaves me up s#it creek . I wouldn't mind refreshing my entire d- jet with new or newer parts , but until I find The person to diagnosis , dismantle , repair and retune . I'm stuck with ,if it ain't broke don't fix it ..... " stick with me honey and you'll be farting through silk." Don blochkay |
| Mueller |
Jan 8 2015, 11:29 AM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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The 1.7 is probably the most robust of all of the 914 engines. We know of examples that go well over 200K miles without being touched. (Though many of those start using copious amounts of oil near the end.) The heads are less prone to cracking than the 2.0 ones, the crank is stiffer because it has thicker rod journals than the 2.0 (or other stroker) cranks, and they tend to be less stressed over all. If you don't like D-jet, you can put together a Megasquirt or Microsquirt system for not much money--but you'll have to spend time and effort (and some $) setting it up and tweaking it. Or you can slap a set of dual carbs on and tinker with them. Either way is going to be much simpler than working out how to fit a modern fuel injected water-cooled engine. That said, if you want Scooby power, go Scooby power! --DD I would think with all the Megasquirt installs done on these cars getting a fairly well done mapping should be fairly simple. By now it should be almost plug and play unless ones setup is really odd. Speaking of which, do we have a listing of known good MSQ files with engine combos posted someplace around here? |
| veekry9 |
Jan 8 2015, 11:53 AM
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OldMember ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
![]() http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-92-Harley-Spr...d65&vxp=mtr At this price you can buy 2 for a 45 deg -4 2.7L,bolt it together and make some big noise,easy in first tho,the Hogs will snap a 914 TX. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rtuxEwC6Fg Then later when you want to get serious you can slip in a Red Shift Cam and really wake them up. Make some stupid power,no bs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radial_engine Real old tech,today the difference is metallurgy and chemistry. |
| veekry9 |
Jan 11 2015, 09:53 AM
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OldMember ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
![]() 20K brand new. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) http://thekneeslider.com/v-quad-4-cylinder-engine/ http://thekneeslider.com/v-quad-bagger-fro...#comment-160394 http://www.markhound.com/trademark/search/O1YJymV9d Yeah,well,looks like he went bust,can't find his site,like he disappeared. Gregory J. Nelson 916-663-6351 http://www.google.com/patents/US7134407 |
| scotty b |
Jan 11 2015, 10:01 AM
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Meets all your criteria. It's small, nimble, sports car. over 100 h.p., good gas mileage, no popup headlights, plenty of forums, girls love them. Enjoy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jan 11 2015, 10:18 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Meets all your criteria. It's small, nimble, sports car. over 100 h.p., good gas mileage, no popup headlights, plenty of forums, girls love them. Enjoy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Love em but at 6ft 3 , might be a tighter fit then the narpnarp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) |
| blabla914 |
Jan 11 2015, 03:31 PM
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I like primer ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 330 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Connecticut Member No.: 1,740 Region Association: None
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The good news is a 1.7 is almost impossible to kill. I drove mine for years in traffic even when it was 95F in New Jersey. Your temperature will be a much greater concern if you are really stuck in traffic.
The bad news is I'm sorry to tell you this, but if you are really up the creek with the smallest mechanical failure I don't think a 40 year old car is for you. I drive my 914 everyday. I built it. A couple times (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). I don't spend every saturday in the garage, but I stay on top of stuff. Things still occasionally break because unless you go and replace everything, there are still lots of old parts. Just this summer low speed wipers stopped working, drivers door lock broke, and right side headlight stopped going down. only the wipers left to fix at this point. If you really like 914's, you can't or don't want to work on it, and you don't have huge coin to blow you need as stock a car as possible. This way any mechanic with a factory manual can fix it. Don't even consider an engine swap or megasquirt. If 30+mpg on the highway (which is what my stock 1.7 would regularly deliver) isn't good enough for you don't even consider carbs. If you want a little more power find someone to build you a stock 2.0. If the engine is stock and in good shape overheating will not be a concern. Just my $.02 |
| brant |
Jan 11 2015, 05:04 PM
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,167 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Maybe. You need to learn how to work on it or buy a more modern car?
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Jan 11 2015, 06:15 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Hey they told me to get in the car and drive and I can drive ....
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