Rear suspension console, technical inquiry, rust repair, parts source Options

[ndfrigi]

my 71 1.7 has a replacement from restoration design.

[mepstein]

sorry to say...Tip o' the ice burg.

This is why I am interested in an option other than the iceberg. I am in no position to take on an entire iceberg at this point. It might be better for me to get this one back together and sell it at a loss and start over.
Or make a serviceable repair, put it back together and enjoy it until I am ready to tackle ripping of that whole passenger side engine bay area to deal with my concealed iceberg.

These cars are 40-45 years old so it's really hard to find a low rust example. Step back, catch your breath and let the group help you over the hump. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[mr2by4]

my 71 1.7 has a replacement from restoration design.

That much I am in for, but my fear is what lies behind that suspension console may be in worse shape than what I am seeing. Once I have cut the old one off, there is no going back.
I have two young kids, so this started with the local 914 guys helping me get my motor in since I don't usually have time to work on it. I had hoped to sneak out one or tow days over Christmas and measure, cut, clean and weld in the new piece. Then perhaps find a weekend in Late January to have part two of my motor party to see if I can get my car running. I did not buy it as a project. I had hoped to drive it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Not as my daily, but I hoped to see it move under its own power and enjoy it as a vehicle.

[cary]

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water ...............

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised when you take the console off.

You'll need this after you put the console on.
http://www.performanceforum.com/wesvann/91.../rd-9-1-08.html

[JoeDees]

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water ...............

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised when you take the console off.

You'll need this after you put the console on.
http://www.performanceforum.com/wesvann/91.../rd-9-1-08.html

Those are pieces I've been hoping Restoration Design will make before I get to that point.

[cary]

Hopefully we can get them added to the wish list.
Pounding them out like a caveman is a PIA. It would nice if they were formed.

Even though I've only done a couple of these. So my body of work is kind of limited. When you hold the new console in your hand you see the captivities where liquid will/would get trapped. That's why I put the drain holes thru the tie plate and the console. I guess my kids/grandkids will find out if my logic was sound on the next restoration.

As for this one I'd have to say this car had a MAJOR battery acid issue or the drain hole on the console was plugged or welded shut. IMO.

[cary]

I think the new part from RD will be made with Galvanneal so it will have a better chance at surviving. I can't remember if it had the RD sticker on it

Galvannealed or galvanneal is the result from the combined process of galvanizing and annealing to produce specialized sheets of steel. The galvanization is made through the hot-dipping (Hot-dip galvanizing) process and an immediate in-line annealing and gives a very fine greyish matte finish.

[mr2by4]

Does Restoration design claim to make these parts? I received a PM from AA claiming that they make their own parts, as well as the ones that Restoration Designs sells.
Does anybody know the story on this?
Also I asked AA if they make the patches referred to here http://www.performanceforum.com/wesvann/91.../rd-9-1-08.html
Maybe a series of requests can get them, or some other vendor, moving in that direction.

[brant]

Does Restoration design claim to make these parts? I received a PM from AA claiming that they make their own parts, as well as the ones that Restoration Designs sells.
Does anybody know the story on this?
Also I asked AA if they make the patches referred to here http://www.performanceforum.com/wesvann/91.../rd-9-1-08.html
Maybe a series of requests can get them, or some other vendor, moving in that direction.

AA.... ha.....

[cary]

Based on my inquiries and purchases. Some parts are made by RD, they have a RD sticker on them. Some made by AA's guy, the long stuff comes to mind. Then some from Dansk. Stoddard ??

With the limited number of 914s produced and still intact we don't need multiple vendors making the same part. Tooling costs are very high and we need these guys too remain profitable. My .02c.

[mr2by4]

my 71 1.7 has a replacement from restoration design.

Do you have a picture of what it looked like with the console removed?
I am trying to get as prepared for this as possible...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (I don't see one with a spot weld cutter and a very concerned look.)

[cary]

Here's a shot from ndfrigi.



The circle in a circle are the spot weld cutter spots ............
He did good. Only punched thru in four spots.

[ndfrigi]

Here's a shot from ndfrigi.



The circle in a circle are the spot weld cutter spots ............
He did good. Only punched thru in four spots.

Actually I credit it to Mark (markesteinhilber) who did the spot weld removal.
Thanks again Mark!

[flyer86d]

It's really not that bad of a repair. I did one for a friend on his 6 that must have had a battery explosion. It was otherwise a rust free car. Once I removed the old console and engine tray, the new one fit right in. I rosette welded it in and the owner took it for alignment and it was dead nuts on. Go figure!

Charlie

[mr2by4]

So there is a chance that the console is the worst of it and that I can do this right. That does not look impossible at all.
I hope to get at it again and do some heavy cleaning and see what I am up against.

[mr2by4]

I was on the fence about whether to patch or replace the console. I went over and was cleaning up today and realized that it had been patched previously. I was all ready to patch it.
when I saw a little something and cleaned away some surface rust to reveal this.

I will be replacing the console. It will probably be easier than trying to patch that mess.

[JoeDees]

Be ready for some more extensive work. The rust on the motor mount bracket is what worries me. Mine looked like that and I'm having to replace that section of the long. I also had extensive rust in the hellhole though.

[ClayPerrine]

I have a battery tray and support for you.

[mr2by4]

I have a battery tray and support for you.

Then I should probably get the console with the shelf... I hope to cut no more than required and replace only what is mandated by safety and performance. I am satisfied with my battery tray. It saves weight, like a GT!

This is not encouraging. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[cary]

Doing a Google search it looks like the factory part # 91450104411 is NLA.
JimEllis Porsche has the factory parts catalog online, it comes up NLA.
It comes up on the ECS site at $947. But I'd be surprised if they have it. I would assume its a drop ship link to Porsche.

Having put on both pieces, I think it would tough to install it like that. But that's just my opinion.