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> Engine swap, '77 911s engine swap
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post Feb 6 2018, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 5 2018, 07:17 PM) *

Just trying to be helpful


DONT Mean to be rude

But if your asking this question then you have no idea
And no business attempting this swap


Your in way over you head

Budgets for these swaps can run into the 15 to 20 k
Range and thats not including the motor .

Warning you are entering a slipppppery slope


So just makes more sense to get a car already
Converted to a /6


I did a big /4:and its a ton of fun for a lot less money
I spent 6800$ total including the motor .




Correct me if im wrong guys but with the/6

The money you'll be spending on wine and cheese alone
Is going to get exorbitant

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post Feb 6 2018, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Feb 6 2018, 01:49 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 5 2018, 07:17 PM) *

Just trying to be helpful


DONT Mean to be rude

But if your asking this question then you have no idea
And no business attempting this swap


Your in way over you head

Budgets for these swaps can run into the 15 to 20 k
Range and thats not including the motor .

Warning you are entering a slipppppery slope


So just makes more sense to get a car already
Converted to a /6


I did a big /4:and its a ton of fun for a lot less money
I spent 6800$ total including the motor .




Correct me if im wrong guys but with the/6

The money you'll be spending on wine and cheese alone
Is going to get exorbitant

cockblocker













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But i beat the bastards and left em in a ditch.


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post Feb 6 2018, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Feb 6 2018, 09:58 AM) *

I know that the engine in consideration is from a 914world seller, but usually there's some concern when talking about the 2.7L engine isn't there? Buyer has hopefully done a lot of homework before jumping into this giant potential money pit.


The 2.7L has the mag case. It was the largest of the mag case motors and in cali they came with a thermal reactor and 5 blade fan. This combo made for pulled head studs.

I did have a tired 2.7L and because the car is not driven a lot it lasted me about 7-8 years as a fun, but very leaky motor. When I wanted a new motor in 2008 I found it cheaper to start with a good 3.0L than rebuild the 2.7L. Not sure if that is still the case or not. If the 2.7L has timecerts installed in the threads it was probably rebuilt at some point.

But a good running flat six in these cars is pure joy... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

I would also consider a honda or subaru six (or four) these days as you can have the same hp, for far less money. But the motor is the main cost, so if the 911 2.7L is at a good price it would be something to consider. Plus it will have more value with a Porsche motor.
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post Feb 6 2018, 07:25 PM
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This is what I love about 914 World! Thank you all for taking the time to chime in. I will take all of your info and advice, do some research, and make a decision. I just figured while I have my car almost completely disassembled, that it would be a good time to embark on such an adventure.

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QUOTE(Morph914 @ Feb 6 2018, 05:25 PM) *

This is what I love about 914 World! Thank you all for taking the time to chime in. I will take all of your info and advice, do some research, and make a decision. I just figured while I have my car almost completely disassembled, that it would be a good time to embark on such an adventure.

Cheers,
John





You didnt mention your in the middle or beginning
Of a restoration
That means your in a position to have more options
And your already " in there" so to speak

And id think once you drop out the 1.7
Your not exactly excited about putting it back in .

So yeah more power would be worthwhile

Some guys "need a six"
but a big 4 webber, headers , premium gas
Will make it happen too
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post Feb 7 2018, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Feb 5 2018, 07:32 PM) *

https://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914-6_cons..._info_guide.htm


Luckily a few members here make a lot of reproduction items to help bring the cost down. Member MB911 is making some really nice stuff that could help.


This is a good article. Pelicanparts is a really good resource for anything 911, I use it all the time. There a lot of guys that post on there that really know what they are doing too. It helped me build my 3.2l.
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post Feb 7 2018, 08:38 AM
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With a used 911 engine, the key is to get an accurate leak-down test before you buy. That will tell you a lot. I got a previously rebuilt 2.7 from a friend, but he sold it at core price because he hadn't torn it down/checked or rebuilt it himself. Did the leak-down test myself and found the #s were bad.

Very glad I got it for $2k (complete engine from engine mounts, tins, flywheel, CIS system etc) because as my engine building friend started tearing it down, he could tell that even though it was rebuilt with case-savers it wasn't rebuilt totally correct and caused issues like a wobbly main bearing and a tight valve guide that caused a lot of damage. It's getting done right this time ($$$, even though we're re-coating the cyls as they were in good shape). It 'should' make 220hp and last a long time as long as I keep up on maintenance. Fingers crossed it does, because I won't want to take this wallet hit again!!!

Like everyone else said, it's a slippery slope and I hope it's worth it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
You'll need to make sure your brakes and suspension are in good order, along with the other bits, like a tach conversion, oil lines etc.
I'm excited to see/hear about mb911's plans for more products, as his current offerings are a great help to the conversion and stock /6 914 community. People like him, naro914, Rich Johnson, 914 rubber and many others are really keeping these cars alive!
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