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| 914_7T3 |
Jun 23 2020, 11:05 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,894 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California
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Would like to confirm if the the heat shield above the muffler is bolted into the cross section of the rear trunk from underneath or is it welded in place?
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| bdstone914 |
Jun 24 2020, 04:38 AM
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bdstone914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,280 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Would like to confirm if the the heat shield above the muffler is bolted into the cross section of the rear trunk from underneath or is it welded in place? Just learned I don't have one installed and its baking my new paint in the trunk from underneath. Have one sourced already and will also be going with heat insulation matting for extra protection. As we discussed only the early 1970 cars had them bolted on. I don't see how it can be rewelded with the limited access to the rear brackets on the shield |
| barefoot |
Jun 24 2020, 06:52 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,488 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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For my 76, it was welded on. Since I replaced a portion of the rear trunk pan, mine is now SS pop riveted on.
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| aharder |
Jun 24 2020, 11:35 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,954 Joined: 6-September 11 From: Dallas Texas Member No.: 13,524 Region Association: Southwest Region
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My 75 is welded, I plan on using inserts to re-install once I remove and repair the trunk pan
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| mepstein |
Jun 24 2020, 11:56 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,587 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Would like to confirm if the the heat shield above the muffler is bolted into the cross section of the rear trunk from underneath or is it welded in place? Just learned I don't have one installed and its baking my new paint in the trunk from underneath. Have one sourced already and will also be going with heat insulation matting for extra protection. As we discussed only the early 1970 cars had them bolted on. I don't see how it can be rewelded with the limited access to the rear brackets on the shield Turn it into a bolt on and then cover over the bolts with some seam sealer and undercoating. |
| davep |
Jun 24 2020, 11:59 AM
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914 Historian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,359 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
From what I have seen, all the 914/6 had them fastened by screws in the rear trunk, and the 914/4 were welded in place.
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| bkrantz |
Jun 24 2020, 08:43 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,646 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Bolt-in? Weld-in? Why not both?
My solution: weld in some simple brackets. Attached thumbnail(s) |
| bkrantz |
Jun 24 2020, 08:44 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,646 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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And then bolt on the heat shield.
Attached thumbnail(s) |
| 914werke |
Jun 25 2020, 12:26 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,606 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I like it
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| zoomCat |
Jun 25 2020, 09:44 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 13-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,526 Region Association: None
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As it turns out I was looking at this very thing today. I'm in the process of stripping the easily removed stuff prior to sending the car off for restoration. This car is a six, so the heat shield is attached with screws to the rear trunk floor, hidden under factory seam sealer. Here's one of them:
There are six of them, located here: Here's a shot of the top side of the heat shield: And a detail of the mounting hardware: The shield is solid, but with surface rust, so it's going to the dippers prior to paint. I don't think I'll hide the fasteners under sealer when it goes back together, though. Guy |
| FlacaProductions |
Jun 25 2020, 10:42 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,176 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California
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Maybe instead of the shield - 1 or two of these?
https://www.rix914parts.com/store/p44/Heat_Sheild_Mat.html |
| ElCee |
Jun 25 2020, 11:07 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 30-September 16 From: the Netherlands Member No.: 20,449 Region Association: None |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jun 25 2020, 11:23 AM
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,304 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Not easy to get at but, it can be welded back in.
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| zoomCat |
Jun 25 2020, 11:24 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 13-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,526 Region Association: None
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Interesting, the much clearer pictures of the /4 show a similar method of attachment but different locations. I wonder what the reason was?
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| 914_7T3 |
Jun 25 2020, 11:43 AM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,894 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California
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Thanks for chiming in and the solutions are great. Embarrased to find out that the heat shield is indeed there as evidenced at the top of this photo from suspension swap Saturday.
![]() Still can't figure out why the paint in the trunk has heat damage, however @Flacaproductions has it right as AASE Sales sells precut sections of that same heat insulating material from Thermal Products. https://www.thermalcontrolproducts.com/our-.../zeroclearance/ The plan is to install that on the shield along with another section underneath the trunk mat. Ordered this sound dampening trunk mat material from Porsche Classic and will custom cut and run that. Of course its not original, but I still have my original mat if I ever show the car. ![]() |
| SirAndy |
Jun 25 2020, 12:49 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
From what I have seen, all the 914/6 had them fastened by screws in the rear trunk, and the 914/4 were welded in place. Early /4 cars had them screwed in as well ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
| davep |
Jun 25 2020, 03:33 PM
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914 Historian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,359 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Thanks Andy, I stand corrected. There are so few 70 or 71 914 in Canada. When did the detachable shield end?
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| rgalla9146 |
Jun 25 2020, 05:38 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,950 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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The 'screw in' early one is found in both 4 and 6 cylinder cars.
There are at least two .....maybe three weld in versions. |
| iankarr |
Jun 25 2020, 09:06 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,595 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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My guess (and it's just a guess) is it might not be not heat damage that's messing with your paint. At least not directly. I had the same issue on my yellow car and it turned out there was a little oil / contamination still in the trunk when the paint was applied. As whatever oil got warm it spread and broke the adhesion.
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| Montreal914 |
Feb 12 2021, 11:06 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,072 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California
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Planning on installing my new trunk panel this weekend and have been thinking about what route I will use for the heat shield.
I like the @bkrantz option (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) But first, I would appreciate a basic information. Can someone give me the distance from the back edge of the shield to the rear panel of the car? Thank you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) bkrantz's picture as reference. ![]() |
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