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| enf2232 |
Feb 15 2021, 08:35 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 13-July 14 From: Toledo, OH Member No.: 17,621 Region Association: None |
Anyone ever consider an aircraft engine swap? Saw the Youtube video and it made me wonder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMoXiQ11Bk |
| 76-914 |
Feb 15 2021, 09:02 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,876 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Anyone ever consider an aircraft engine swap? Saw the Youtube video and it made me wonder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMoXiQ11Bk Nope. It's an entirely different creature. For one the Red line is about 3300 rpm. It would most likely overheat unless you were on the hi way all the time and on and on and on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
| Shivers |
Feb 15 2021, 09:50 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,335 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
Tucker used a H-6 intended for a bell helicopter. I looked up the typical rpm of a piston engine for a helo, 450 - 500 rpm. Not sure how he did it. Couldn't find much info on his engine.
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| bdstone914 |
Feb 15 2021, 10:03 AM
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bdstone914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,280 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Why? What do you see and possible advantages ?
An aircraft engine is made to operate at a fixed RPM. You would have to add a source of airflow over the heads and cylinders. Parts are far more expensive and less common. |
| Mark Henry |
Feb 15 2021, 10:05 AM
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
It's like the flying car or the amphibious car. Sounds great but in practice they're not very good at any one thing.
The flying car is at best a marginal car or a marginal airplane. There's exceptions, as in car engines in small aircraft, but these engines are reworked to better suit aircraft. |
| 9146GUY |
Feb 15 2021, 10:05 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 130 Joined: 29-November 15 From: Central Ohio Member No.: 19,420 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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| mb911 |
Feb 15 2021, 11:08 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,729 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Spent my former life rebuilding aircraft engines. The only thing close to what we would want would be the Rotax 914UL or the 912S. They are 4cyl opposed with watercooled heads.. the 914ul is a turbocharged version. Turns good RPM as well
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| maj75 |
Feb 15 2021, 11:37 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 26-May 20 From: Lighthouse Point, FL Member No.: 24,317 Region Association: None |
There are probably hundreds of aircraft with VW air cooled motors. What struck me about the Type VI and 6 cylinder 911 motors was how much they resemble aircraft motors. Porsche even licensed their 3.0 six (IIRC) to Mooney for their aircraft. LS engines are being used for everything from boat motors to aircraft engines. Just because it’s in an airplane doesn’t mean it has to be air cooled.
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| oakdalecurtis |
Feb 15 2021, 12:40 PM
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Oakdalecurtis ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,407 Joined: 5-June 15 From: Oakdale, Ca Member No.: 18,802 Region Association: Central California
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See this post about putting a Merlin engine in a 914!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=344425&hl= |
| mbseto |
Feb 15 2021, 03:55 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,257 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
It would be amusing to see a car - any car - with a rotary engine (aircraft not wankel :-) ).
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| mepstein |
Feb 15 2021, 04:01 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,587 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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It would be amusing to see a car - any car - with a rotary engine (aircraft not wankel :-) ). It's been done to a bug. Looks like it should be in a mad max movie. Exposed prop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) |
| mepstein |
Feb 15 2021, 04:02 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,587 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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See this post about putting a Merlin engine in a 914! http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=344425&hl= Look at the date (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
| gereed75 |
Feb 15 2021, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,425 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States
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The standard four cylinder Lycoming is 360 cubic inches making 180 HP
The Thunderbolt as shown in the link is probably a 390. They are built stout. Take a look at the length of that nosebearing. They are designed to turn 2700 - 2900 rpm max. You would need some really long gearing to make that work! I know there are a lot of radial powered bike https://www.haulnride.com/radial-engine-mot...past-to-present A few cars, looking for links...... aha, here’s one https://www.motortrend.com/news/airplane-en...dically-radial/ |
| Mueller |
Feb 15 2021, 05:01 PM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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The standard four cylinder Lycoming is 360 cubic inches making 180 HP The Thunderbolt as shown in the link is probably a 390. They are built stout. Take a look at the length of that nosebearing. They are designed to turn 2700 - 2900 rpm max. You would need some really long gearing to make that work! I know there are a lot of radial powered bike https://www.haulnride.com/radial-engine-mot...past-to-present A few cars, looking for links...... aha, here’s one https://www.motortrend.com/news/airplane-en...dically-radial/ 1st engine I ever took apart and "rebuilt". At school we just took them apart, measured everything and put it right back together. No new parts since just run on test cells. |
| PanelBilly |
Feb 15 2021, 05:33 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,950 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I see O’Reilys has Flux Capacitors on their website for sale. Do you think I could fit me in my 914? I know they are engineered for time travel but who knows. Might make for a fun conversion.
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| Shivers |
Feb 15 2021, 06:19 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,335 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
Well, this is how it can happen. At least someone else put up the money.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/...ngine-in-a-car/ |
| Mikey914 |
Feb 16 2021, 03:47 AM
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The rubber man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,772 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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For what you would pay for a serviceable aircraft engine you could build a nice T4 motor, so why? If you want HP you can go V8 or Subaru, My leaning would be to the latter with a turbo, but it's a lot of work and money you will probably never get back if you sell it.
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| dhuckabay |
Feb 16 2021, 04:21 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 235 Joined: 14-June 20 From: Idaho Member No.: 24,379 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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My plane has a Continental 360ci, supercharged. Rebuild is the best past of $40k. As said above, very limited rpm range. No reason to consider it for any auto.
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| dhuckabay |
Feb 16 2021, 04:22 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 235 Joined: 14-June 20 From: Idaho Member No.: 24,379 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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My plane has a Continental 360ci, supercharged. Rebuild is the best past of $40k. As said above, very limited rpm range. No reason to consider it for any auto.
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| Unobtanium-inc |
Feb 16 2021, 10:08 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None
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I've seen it the other way around, 914 motor in a gyro-copter.
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