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> Contracted 914 fever— is this the car to cure it?, What do you think of this ‘73 914 2.0 on Bat— pass or play?
sarivers2001
post Aug 18 2023, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 15 2023, 11:55 AM) *

Whelp, looks like I’m officially a member of this club now!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-113/



Congrats!! I bought the orange one that sold on BaT a couple of weeks earlier. I think you got a really good deal (or I got rooked). Or both...
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post Aug 18 2023, 03:16 PM
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Did you happen to have a look at the red ‘76?



That red '76 looks gorgeous!
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post Aug 18 2023, 03:24 PM
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Congrats! Will be very curious to get your impression of the 914 after you get to drive it etc.

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Seems like a decent deal to me.
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post Aug 18 2023, 03:49 PM
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Dare I run this 914 year round?


Only if you want to see it turn to rust before your eyes



Am always curious about this. Hypothetically, what might be done to mitigate this?
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post Aug 18 2023, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(sarivers2001 @ Aug 18 2023, 05:09 PM) *

QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 15 2023, 11:55 AM) *

Whelp, looks like I’m officially a member of this club now!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-113/



Congrats!! I bought the orange one that sold on BaT a couple of weeks earlier. I think you got a really good deal (or I got rooked). Or both...
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I am way too new to the car to offer any comment on this.
That said, I was prepared to go higher…
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post Aug 18 2023, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Aug 18 2023, 05:24 PM) *

Congrats! Will be very curious to get your impression of the 914 after you get to drive it etc.

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Seems like a decent deal to me.



Yes, looking forward to sharing that.
But as the west coast car shows are wrapping up, have been told that its going to be a wait.
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post Aug 18 2023, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 09:08 AM) *

I think I am also missing what the heck a decel valve is! Will look into it…


Deceleration valve. It's not necessary in order to drive the car. Early cars didn't have it. Not sure exactly when it was added, but my 72 did have it so it was at least added by 72. It's an emissions item, that routes air around the throttle plate when you're off throttle. It lowers emissions, and reduces how quickly RPMs come down when stopping. And it also supposedly lengthens the life of the MPS diaphragm. If you can track one down, I think it'd be worth adding.

Pulled this pic from the Delphi Green 2.0 that's on BAT right now. The decel valve has the 3 hoses coming out of it, and it's mounted right above the MPS (manifold pressure sensor).


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post Aug 18 2023, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 03:49 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Aug 18 2023, 09:24 AM) *

QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 09:18 AM) *


Dare I run this 914 year round?


Only if you want to see it turn to rust before your eyes



Am always curious about this. Hypothetically, what might be done to mitigate this?


I never take any sporting machine out when rain is in the forecast and they all are tucked away in dry storage for the winter. Do not run this beauty in the NE winter months, please.

Winter beater is the answer (bar car)
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post Aug 18 2023, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 09:08 AM) *

I think I am also missing what the heck a decel valve is! Will look into it…


Deceleration valve. It's not necessary in order to drive the car. Early cars didn't have it. Not sure exactly when it was added, but my 72 did have it so it was at least added by 72. It's an emissions item, that routes air around the throttle plate when you're off throttle. It lowers emissions, and reduces how quickly RPMs come down when stopping. And it also supposedly lengthens the life of the MPS diaphragm. If you can track one down, I think it'd be worth adding.

Pulled this pic from the Delphi Green 2.0 that's on BAT right now. The decel valve has the 3 hoses coming out of it, and it's mounted right above the MPS (manifold pressure sensor).



Oh man, there’s definitely more stuff on this engine than our 36hp.
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post Aug 18 2023, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 05:49 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Aug 18 2023, 09:24 AM) *

QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 09:18 AM) *


Dare I run this 914 year round?


Only if you want to see it turn to rust before your eyes



Am always curious about this. Hypothetically, what might be done to mitigate this?

Nothing hypothetical - there is no preventing the accelerated corrosion due to salt.

There are too many nooks and crannies for the salt to get into and to do its work. Even under the best of circumstances, 914’s corrode from the inside out.

These cars were built in an era before galvaneal steel and e-coating inside body cavities was a thing. In addition they are largely built using steel that is 0.8 - 1.0mm thick. That is what makes them light weight. It also means that it doesn’t take very long for rust to grab hold and to perforate panels.

Due to the nature of the enclosed body sections (longitudinals, sail panels, and rear bulkhead box section), it is almost impossible to get 100% coverage of any sort of body cavity wax or rust inhibitor.

If you drive it in the winter, on salt & slush roads, you will severely devalue what you have purchased.



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post Aug 18 2023, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 05:49 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Aug 18 2023, 09:24 AM) *

QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 09:18 AM) *


Dare I run this 914 year round?


Only if you want to see it turn to rust before your eyes



Am always curious about this. Hypothetically, what might be done to mitigate this?

Nothing hypothetical - there is no preventing the accelerated corrosion due to salt.

There are too many nooks and crannies for the salt to get into and to do its work. Even under the best of circumstances, 914’s corrode from the inside out.

These cars were built in an era before galvaneal steel and e-coating inside body cavities was a thing. In addition they are largely built using steel that is 0.8 - 1.0mm thick. That is what makes them light weight. It also means that it doesn’t take very long for rust to grab hold and to perforate panels.

Due to the nature of the enclosed body sections (longitudinals, sail panels, and rear bulkhead box section), it is almost impossible to get 100% coverage of any sort of body cavity wax or rust inhibitor.

If you drive it in the winter, on salt & slush roads, you will severely devalue what you have purchased.


Pretty much the story I have heard for the ‘59 Karmann Ghia as well.
Thanks for the confirmation.
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post Aug 18 2023, 08:04 PM
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Another New England 914! I also have a Ghia. Maybe we’ll start a trend.

Welcome to the madness. Keep an eye out for the Northeast Gathering next Summer. Would be great to see you and your new toy.
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post Aug 19 2023, 02:48 PM
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Another New England 914! I also have a Ghia. Maybe we’ll start a trend.

Welcome to the madness. Keep an eye out for the Northeast Gathering next Summer. Would be great to see you and your new toy.


Thanks!
Northeast Gathering sounds fun.
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post Aug 20 2023, 06:22 AM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 09:18 AM) *


Yes, if I recall it does become somewhat chilly in Connecticut in the winter.
Unfortunately it also becomes somewhat salty.

This brings up a point that I would love to hear the forums reaction to:
Dare I run this 914 year round?
What would be required to do so?



Roads aren’t that much different here across the Sound, well, probably worse but that’s another story. My rule is that the car stays in the garage once that brine nonsense goes down (like when there’s a whisper of possible snowfall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)) till usually some time in mid March when heavy rains wash all that crap away.

If you see any white residue on the road, keep it in the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 20 2023, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 18 2023, 09:18 AM) *


Yes, if I recall it does become somewhat chilly in Connecticut in the winter.
Unfortunately it also becomes somewhat salty.

This brings up a point that I would love to hear the forums reaction to:
Dare I run this 914 year round?
What would be required to do so?



Roads aren’t that much different here across the Sound, well, probably worse but that’s another story. My rule is that the car stays in the garage once that brine nonsense goes down (like when there’s a whisper of possible snowfall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)) till usually some time in mid March when heavy rains wash all that crap away.

If you see any white residue on the road, keep it in the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)



Oh, I know all this as you might suspect. Just trying to push the envelope haha. I am already looking for winter storage…
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post Aug 20 2023, 09:39 AM
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So, I love manuals.
What’s the Bentley Blue Book of 914s?
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post Aug 20 2023, 11:11 AM
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Don’t think I’ve ever seen one. Got one for an Etype, if’n anyone needs it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 20 2023, 02:12 PM
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Don’t think I’ve ever seen one. Got one for an Etype, if’n anyone needs it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)



I guess what I mean is what equivalent publication might there be.
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post Aug 20 2023, 03:56 PM
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So, I love manuals.
What’s the Bentley Blue Book of 914s?


you can download factory manuals here.
better than the old diy haynes etc.

http://p914-6info.net/Manuals.htm
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Congrats. That seemed like a decent price.

They all need something. I somewhat accidentally bought a BB on BAT last august. It is a solid car and I think I did ok, but starting with replacing plastic fuel lines and knowing the car had sat a lot for 20 plus years has lead to a whole lot of taking apart and putting back together with new parts. It's like pulling the thread on a sweater :-)

Best of luck with yours. I love the color! Enjoy :-)
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