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> Contracted 914 fever— is this the car to cure it?, What do you think of this ‘73 914 2.0 on Bat— pass or play?
trylon
post Aug 9 2023, 11:06 AM
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New to the forum and the car. Was pointed to it by an aficionado on The Samba— I have a ‘59 Karmann Ghia. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723793

He suggested that the people on this forum were the brain trust for all things 914 and that I should vet one here that has caught my eye on BAT:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-113/

Any insight would be appreciated!
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post Aug 9 2023, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 9 2023, 01:06 PM) *

New to the forum and the car. Was pointed to it by an aficionado on The Samba— I have a ‘59 Karmann Ghia. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723793

He suggested that the people on this forum where the brain trust for all things 914 and that I should vet one here that has caught my eye on BAT:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-113/

Any insight would be appreciated!


Nice looking car... there's plenty of time to put eyes on it by arranging a PPI. And congrats on your lowlight, that is a beautiful example. Good infection! I see you took the same approach with that purchase. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

Owned by a member here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...mp;viewid=21814
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post Aug 9 2023, 01:04 PM
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Great pictures. Show the good and the bad. Overall it looks like a great car. Seats, wheels and muffler not original but otherwise looks like an honest original example of one of the most desirable year and trim cars. Anything under 30k would be a bargain and 40k would not be a surprise. Someone here might know the car or be willing to check it out in person for you.
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post Aug 9 2023, 01:52 PM
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Looks like most everything is there. From the pictures It looks very nice. My pause was the license plate, but I am not seeing rusticles hanging down. They are one ton of fun...Hope you join us.
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post Aug 9 2023, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(Bullethead @ Aug 9 2023, 01:24 PM) *

QUOTE(trylon @ Aug 9 2023, 01:06 PM) *

New to the forum and the car. Was pointed to it by an aficionado on The Samba— I have a ‘59 Karmann Ghia. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723793

He suggested that the people on this forum where the brain trust for all things 914 and that I should vet one here that has caught my eye on BAT:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-113/

Any insight would be appreciated!


Nice looking car... there's plenty of time to put eyes on it by arranging a PPI. And congrats on your lowlight, that is a beautiful example. Good infection! I see you took the same approach with that purchase. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

Owned by a member here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...mp;viewid=21814


Haha, yes I took the same tack as it previously yielded such great fruit!
Thanks for your response and kind words.
Yes, I would be interested in hearing from anyone in the Scottsdale area who would be willing to look it over (for a fee of course). A couple of my knowledgeable friends believe it took a blow to the front end. I would be interested to know the ramifications of that impact. The seller is amenable to such an inspection and is even willing to put it up on a lift!
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post Aug 9 2023, 02:03 PM
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Looks like a nice 914 for sure. Would get a PPI on it if possible.
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post Aug 9 2023, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(jdamiano @ Aug 9 2023, 03:04 PM) *

Great pictures. Show the good and the bad. Overall it looks like a great car. Seats, wheels and muffler not original but otherwise looks like an honest original example of one of the most desirable year and trim cars. Anything under 30k would be a bargain and 40k would not be a surprise. Someone here might know the car or be willing to check it out in person for you.


Thanks for your input. I am a novice in things 914 but not a total uninitiate. Had the use of my mother-in-laws when they were new!


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post Aug 9 2023, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Aug 9 2023, 04:03 PM) *

Looks like a nice 914 for sure. Would get a PPI on it if possible.


Yes, am very interested in having it looked at— is there some sort of “bat signal” I need to flash in the sky?
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post Aug 9 2023, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(Shivers @ Aug 9 2023, 03:52 PM) *

Looks like most everything is there. From the pictures It looks very nice. My pause was the license plate, but I am not seeing rusticles hanging down. They are one ton of fun...Hope you join us.


What a welcoming post— I do hope to bid my way into this forum soon!
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post Aug 9 2023, 02:10 PM
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I was unable to see the Ghia, but I'm sure she's cool and yes, find a decent (solid) 914 and join the club. How do things look when you remove the rocker covers? That often tells a good tale
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post Aug 9 2023, 02:48 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)

I was unable to see the Ghia, but I'm sure she's cool and yes, find a decent (solid) 914 and join the club. How do things look when you remove the rocker covers? That often tells a good tale


Here’s a walkaround video of the ‘59 Ghia.

I brought it back to 6 volts:



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post Aug 9 2023, 03:42 PM
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.....maybe you don't need a 914.....you might just need more cowbell?

But I digress, in all seriousness....Welcome!....Nice Ghia!!!

I agree with your assessment that the car has been hit in the front. The front of the hood doesn't quite sit right, and if you look at the pics in the 160 to 180 range, you will see several pics of the frunk where the semicircular sheet metal that surrounds the spare looks damaged. At the point where it joins the fender wells at the back of that semicircle, you can see where the welds just don't look right. You can also see some waves in those areas.....likely where it buckled, at least slightly when it was impacted.

Just my 2 cents. Still alot to like with that particular car. Good luck!
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You will pay a premium on BAT. Plenty of nice cars offered for sale on this site for a lot less.
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QUOTE(Craigers17 @ Aug 9 2023, 05:42 PM) *

.....maybe you don't need a 914.....you might just need more cowbell?

But I digress, in all seriousness....Welcome!....Nice Ghia!!!

I agree with your assessment that the car has been hit in the front. The front of the hood doesn't quite sit right, and if you look at the pics in the 160 to 180 range, you will see several pics of the frunk where the semicircular sheet metal that surrounds the spare looks damaged. At the point where it joins the fender wells at the back of that semicircle, you can see where the welds just don't look right. You can also see some waves in those areas.....likely where it buckled, at least slightly when it was impacted.

Just my 2 cents. Still alot to like with that particular car. Good luck!



I am wondering what more cowbell could possibly mean…

Thanks for the kind words and information.
So I gather that a bump in the front does not necessarily make this car a no go. Seems prudent to see what the ramifications of that hit were though before bidding.
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You will pay a premium on BAT. Plenty of nice cars offered for sale on this site for a lot less.


Yes, I have been warned about this. That said, I do not see a comparable 2.0 in the classifieds at the moment.
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:51 PM
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Or the full version:

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post Aug 9 2023, 06:20 PM
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I'm in the East Valley (Chandler, AZ) not far from Scottsdale, but I'm not sure I can really add much value beyond what has already been pointed out. I've never driven/ridden in a 914, so no help with what it should feel like, etc.

I personally would focus on the front end hit/damage. It really doesn't look right, or like it was repaired well.

Here's the same areas of my '74 for reference. You can clearly see it almost looks like a new "half-circle" support was welded in - the support that wraps around the spare tire. It really doesn't look correct to my eyes! I'd be asking a lot of questions about the damage & repair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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Just a thought - the PMS work on the car was just in July. Might be worth trying to call PMS and see what they can tell you about the car. Mr. Patrick took a good 20min to chat with me when I just purchased some fiberglass flares from them...
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Hahaha! I DO know that. Just never associated it to my fever.
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QUOTE(mgarrison @ Aug 9 2023, 08:20 PM) *

I'm in the East Valley (Chandler, AZ) not far from Scottsdale, but I'm not sure I can really add much value beyond what has already been pointed out. I've never driven/ridden in a 914, so no help with what it should feel like, etc.

I personally would focus on the front end hit/damage. It really doesn't look right, or like it was repaired well.

Here's the same areas of my '74 for reference. You can clearly see it almost looks like a new "half-circle" support was welded in - the support that wraps around the spare tire. It really doesn't look correct to my eyes! I'd be asking a lot of questions about the damage & repair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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Just a thought - the PMS work on the car was just in July. Might be worth trying to call PMS and see what they can tell you about the car. Mr. Patrick took a good 20min to chat with me when I just purchased some fiberglass flares from them...


Thanks for taking the time to reply— very helpful. I do see how it should look. Guess I am hoping that it is price damper and not a deal breaker.
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5 bolt hubs achieved by drilling out the standard 4-bolt hubs, vs a true swap to 911 front end. Related, you will see the spare mounted in the front trunk is a 4-bolt wheel.. so it wont fit if you get a flat. you will need another 5-bolt wheel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

And yes, looks like some front end damage at one point. I was wondering why the front trunk alignment with the bumper seemed a tad off.

Pretty green paint. Photographs well.. There are worse places to start.
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