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post Jun 11 2005, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (scott thacher @ Jun 10 2005, 10:39 PM)
well i have been busy for a little, and at renagade, Dana is the one to talk to about the suby stuff ( opps (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif) ) he has been emailed all of my threads on my suby conversion for comparison and info

all i will say is it should be soon, which we in the 914 world means within a year (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

and audioculture nice to see you back and have fun with the suby engine

Thanks!

I love this thread, I have been off for a while due to everyone has the next latest and greatest. I wanted to wait until it was done and then pat myself on the back!!! Dana's car is the car that is on the road, in fact pictures are on Renegades web site. My car is getting steel flares welded on, painted, new wheels and tires, 911 front end and new interior. I put a killer stereo in Dana's 914 that I will probably do the exact same in mine. GAF here I come!!!
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post Jun 11 2005, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (audioculture @ Jun 11 2005, 10:54 AM)
QUOTE (Travis Neff @ Jun 10 2005, 05:10 PM)
I am in Vegas for the last week of this month, up for a show and tell?  I'd love to see it

No problem, give me a call.

702-524-5580

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Excellent, I am working up there Monday June 27th through Friday July 1st. I'll give you a shout when I head up.
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post Jun 11 2005, 04:22 PM
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How much heavier is your Suby 914 compared to a TIV 914?
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post Jun 11 2005, 04:33 PM
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I think it is between 30-60lbs lighter!, well add coolant system - which scott said it was around 20-30lbs with coolant.
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post Jun 11 2005, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (scott thacher @ Jun 10 2005, 10:39 PM)
well i have been busy for a little, and at renagade, Dana is the one to talk to about the suby stuff ( opps (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif) ) he has been emailed all of my threads on my suby conversion for comparison and info

all i will say is it should be soon, which we in the 914 world means within a year (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

and audioculture nice to see you back and have fun with the suby engine

That was nice of you to do, did they use any of your ideas ? I see they used the RH rad.
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post Jun 11 2005, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (jkeyzer @ Jun 10 2005, 10:52 PM)
Where did you find the engine?

Look at ebay....there is a guy in Hayward, CA that has a "few" listed
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post Jun 11 2005, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 11 2005, 03:26 PM)

That was nice of you to do, did they use any of your ideas ? I see they used the RH rad.

nope they were past all the stuff that would have helped when i talked with them. i did show keith pics of my engine bar before they got to that but they wanted it off of the stock pick ups for the engine and tranny.

they almost had the car running when i talked to em but i figured they would mod it some for production kits so any more info would be helpful

also dana was very intereseted to see the radiator set up
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post Jun 15 2005, 02:03 PM
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Hey, this is Dana. I designed, built, and own the 914 porscharu you have all been talking about. I just wanted to say that this little car is a joy to drive, is wonderfully reliable, and will kick the ass of about any car you tell it to. victims so far include: a new 997 (no plates on it yet! hehe) an s2000, and a boxter S. if you have any questions about the car or renegade hybrids feel free to ask. this kit will be available in about a month. For more pics and videos check out: my porscharu

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post Jun 15 2005, 03:37 PM
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Dana,

How are you associated with Keith/audioculture?

Did you use the Renegade radiator?

Any idea of the kit pricing?

just curious,
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post Jun 15 2005, 03:54 PM
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A brief history: kieth is my roommate. he thought it would be cool to install a wrx engine in a 914, and he bought an engine for his car. kieth's car still needs body, paint, and suspension work before the conversion will be installed in his car. kieth convinced me to do the subie conversion on my car, so my buddie mike and I designed the kit, i bought a 400 mile wrx 2.0 turbo motor, and my car is the one you see on the road today. as for the radiator, yes I used the renegade hybrids radiator. I think that installing the radiator in the engine bay like Scott Thacher did is a very cool idea but is not possible for a turbo application such as this one. pricing info will be available in about a month when the kit is released.
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post Jun 15 2005, 04:08 PM
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Sweeeeet!


This is my dream conversion and I will do it someday!!!


I would love to do it with an EJ25T instead of the EJ20T if the engines get cheaper....



Awesome job!
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post Jun 15 2005, 07:29 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) WOW this car "ROCKS"!!!!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)
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post Jun 16 2005, 01:25 PM
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Just a little more info on the kit. the renegade hybrids kit available next month will make it possible to install any EJ series subaru engine into a 914,the number behind the EJ designates engine(EJ22 = 2.2 liter). these include:
EJ18: Found in Imprezas from 1993-1997. Rated at 110hp and 120 ft-lbs
EJ22 Phase I: Found in Legacies from 1990-1998 and Imprezas from 1995-1998. Comes rated at 130hp and 137 ft-lbs, 135hp and 140 ft-lbs, or 137hp and 145 ft-lbs.
EJ22 Phase II: Found in Legacies in 1999 and Imprezas from 1999-2001. Rated at 142hp and 149 ft-lbs.
EJ22-T Phase I: Found in Sport Sedan and Touring Wagons (Legacies) from 1990-1994. Turbocharged and non-intercooled. Rated at 160hp and 181 ft-lbs. Closed deck, cast pistons, forged rods, oil squirters: turbo motor. Poor flowing heads.
EJ25 DOHC Phase I: Found in Legacies from 1996-1999, Imprezas in 1998, and Foresters in 1998. Rated at either 155hp and 140 ft-lbs in 1996 or 165hp and 162 ft-lbs in 1997-1999.
EJ25 SOHC Phase II: Found in Legacies from 2000+, Imprezas from 1999+, and Foresters from 1999+. Rated at 165hp and 166 ft-lbs. There was a slight compression ratio change from 1999-2000 where it went from 9.7:1 to 10.0:1.
USDM EJ20: US Domestic Market WRX. Found in 2002+ WRXs. Rated at 227hp and 217 ft-lbs. Turbocharged, intercooled, open deck, and decent heads.
EJ25T DOHC: Available in 2004 in the Forester XT. Rated at 210hp and 235 ft-lbs. Turbocharged, intercooled, VVTi (Variable Valve Timing), and drive by wire.
EJ25T-STi DOHC: Available in 2004 in the WRX STi. Rated at 300hp and 300 ft-lbs. Turbocharged, intercooled, AVCS (Active Valve Control System), drive by wire, intercooler sprayer, and semi-closed design
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post Jun 16 2005, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (plymouth37 @ Jun 16 2005, 03:25 PM)
EJ25 DOHC Phase I: Found in Legacies from 1996-1999, Imprezas in 1998, and Foresters in 1998. Rated at either 155hp and 140 ft-lbs in 1996 or 165hp and 162 ft-lbs in 1997-1999.

cool - i've got two of those...

one is in the Outback, with bad head gaskets on both sides, again.
the other is on a mover's dolly, back from a head gasket repair, ready to go into the Outback.

once i do that swap, and fix the heads for a third time (the first repair was done by the DAPO's dealer, under warranty, which he just happened to mention when we went to collect the title after making our last payment - a month after it failed again...) this could be an interesting engine for someone.

i really like that engine - when it is running - but i don't think i'll be putting it in my /6... the way our luck has been running with them, i think i'll be doing well to stay ahead of the head gasket repairs...
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post Jun 16 2005, 01:51 PM
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Head gaskets.... is that just with that particular motor/years, or is that a problem with all of them?



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post Jun 16 2005, 02:05 PM
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from what I have heard subaru's older engines suffered some head gasket problems. but nothing to be afraid of. all ej engines will fit, but this kit is mostly focused on the more modern wrx engines, which from what I have heard are not as notorius for head gasket problems.
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post Jun 16 2005, 03:07 PM
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If you're interested in a Suby conversion, you might be interested in this site:

Outback Motors
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QUOTE (ematulac @ Jun 16 2005, 01:07 PM)
If you're interested in a Suby conversion, you might be interested in this site:

Outback Motors

very cool, thanks for the link.
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Hey look.. skinny, cheap fuel pumps...


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Dana,

Just a suggestion, create good installation documentation. Renegade's is a bit "light" but maybe they like fielding alot of calls... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

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