 Is a 914-6 with a non-original 6 really different?, wondering |
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| tommyg |
 Jul 29 2005, 12:38 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Walnut Creek, CA Member No.: 3,824  |
Just wondering. I see ads like this one
Craigslist 914-6 and I'm curious...if it's a 914-6 with a non-original 6, is it really any different from a 4 banger with a 6 in there? |
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| Mueller |
Jul 29 2005, 12:45 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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"I" would pay a little more for a real six with a tranplanted motor and so would a few other people than for a standard /4 converted over...it all depends on the person.
Some people don't care...no right or wrong, but in my opinion, the original /6 chassis is worth more and will keep it's value better....... also, many times, the original motor is still available so it would be easy to swap it back in and have an original /6 |
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| lapuwali |
Jul 29 2005, 12:49 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743  |
Yes. The original 6 has several body changes. For example, there are no engine mounts on the sides near the trailing arm pivots, as the real /6 mounted the engine on the firewall. You can convert a /4 tub to pretty much match a /6 tub, but you still don't get that 914/6 VIN, so it will always be a "conversion". As a practical matter, this means nothing. For a collector, however, it means a lot. A real 914/6 tub will always be worth more than a 914/4 tub, even if the /4 tub has been converted.
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| SirAndy |
Jul 29 2005, 12:51 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
yes. it's still a original /6 plus it's way faster than the 2.0L that was in there 35 years ago ... so you get both, the rare original /6 chassis plus a more modern engine that makes the car move the way it was supposed to be moved anyways ... if only i had $$$ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) Andy |
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| grantsfo |
Jul 29 2005, 12:54 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
That car is my area if anyone is interested in me taking a look. I dont think he is going to get close to what he is asking. If its relatively clean it might be a $12 to $15K car in my opinion.
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| Root_Werks |
Jul 29 2005, 01:50 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,930 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I would only ever buy an original six for collection purposes. If you think about it, you would be buying an early car void of things like:
Side dash air vents Adj pass seat Side shifter felt window chanel guides Window roll mech I am sure there are others to add to it. If you want to drive it, seems the best years are the early 73' cars with all the latest updates, but no side beems in the doors, but still have the late window regs. It's all up to the buyer. But if I was going to drive it around, I would opt for a conversion. You won't feel bad about doing upgrades to a 4 chasis. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| tommyg |
Jul 29 2005, 04:22 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Walnut Creek, CA Member No.: 3,824 |
Ok Root, so what are you going to charge me for your newly converted 6, or the next one that you make for me?
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| SirAndy |
Jul 29 2005, 04:28 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
dunno dude, i'm pretty happy without those "upgrades" ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Andy |
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| Root_Werks |
Jul 29 2005, 04:28 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,930 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) Talk to Craig (Camp914) boxstr on the club. My sixes go to CAMP. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Attached image(s) 
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| SirAndy |
Jul 29 2005, 04:31 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
why do the fenderwells always have to look ratty on otherwise pretty cars? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Andy |
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| Red-Beard |
Jul 29 2005, 07:52 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
OK, so what do you think of:
A factory 1970 914/6 with Sideshift conversion Pass Seat Conversion Original Engine with Matching Serial Number upgraded to 2.7 RS Spec Upgraded Carbs for 2.7 RS Engine 16 In Fuchs Front and rear Sway bars 1973 Model Doors (Late Mechanism & Reinforcement) Leather Interior, Leather Seats with cloth Inserts Rebuilt Tranny with Guards LSD. Dual Outlet Sport Exhaust. My intention was to keep it looking basically original (Except Pass Seat). |
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| olav |
Jul 29 2005, 08:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
I guess it's ok. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| Root_Werks |
Jul 30 2005, 08:10 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,930 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Guilty! I am going to spray under there before it goes to CAMP. When I was painting, I shot the gun under the rear fenders, but spaced doing the fronts. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) |
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| J P Stein |
Jul 30 2005, 08:59 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
For a hot rod, spending an extra 5-8 K for an original 6 doesn't make much sense.....that's my opinion and it's mine.
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| Bleyseng |
Jul 30 2005, 10:46 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,037 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
rust free is the most important to me, then the vin.....if its hot rodded who cares if it a 914 vin as its not original.
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| Joe Bob |
Jul 30 2005, 11:09 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Only if you actually want to get more of the "investment" back when ya sell.....not likely on most conversions.... I'm still kicking myself for selling the Rocket.... |
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