 Unexpected Phone Call from Jake, that was pleasant and informative |
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| DanT |
  Jul 27 2006, 05:46 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side!  Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None  |
I had sent an email to Jake's website a couple of days ago wanting to get some information about some parts and/or engine kits...
Was only expecting an email reply.... Out of the blue I get a call from Jake to discuss what I am thinking about building and what cams etc will work... Suggestions for what will work without too much hassle with D-jet and what won't. Told him what I was wanting to do with the motor and he came up with some good ideas that in the long run will probably be cheaper than trying to get stuff machined and cobbled together from several vendors. Like brand new heads instead of remachined 30 year old stuff. Thanks for the call Jake, I really appreciate it and I will be contacting you in the near future about my motor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| So.Cal.914 |
Jul 27 2006, 06:02 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Non members kick a$$.
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| kdfoust |
Jul 27 2006, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 694 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Riverside Member No.: 71 Region Association: Southern California |
How much are new heads?
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| ppickerell |
Jul 27 2006, 08:05 PM
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914 addicted Group: Members Posts: 1,679 Joined: 14-October 03 From: Pleasanton, CA. Member No.: 1,246 |
Gyhlenhaal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The snake? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The guy with ladder? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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| grantsfo |
Jul 27 2006, 10:00 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
If I were going to have a 4 built I would definitely use Jake as a resource. He is one of the most knowledgable T4 guys out there. Nice to see him taking a differnt approach to his business.
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| DanT |
Jul 27 2006, 10:02 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(ppickerell @ Jul 27 2006, 07:05 PM)  Gyhlenhaal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The snake? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The guy with ladder? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Raby....as if you didn't know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Bleyseng |
Jul 27 2006, 10:17 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,037 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Jul 27 2006, 04:46 PM) I had sent an email to Jake's website a couple of days ago wanting to get some information about some parts and/or engine kits... Was only expecting an email reply.... Out of the blue I get a call from Jake to discuss what I am thinking about building and what cams etc will work... Suggestions for what will work without too much hassle with D-jet and what won't. Told him what I was wanting to do with the motor and he came up with some good ideas that in the long run will probably be cheaper than trying to get stuff machined and cobbled together from several vendors. Like brand new heads instead of remachined 30 year old stuff. Thanks for the call Jake, I really appreciate it and I will be contacting you in the near future about my motor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ok, what is your plan? Last I saw you were thinking about a stockish 2.0L..... |
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| DanT |
Jul 27 2006, 10:26 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Still thinking about a euro p/c 2.0L with a slighly warmer cam and slight bump in compression or.........
Maybe one of Jakes 2056 kits with new heads and all the goodies to run with D-jet. Keeping the stock FI is one of my main goals. As a matter of fact he suggested contacting you, Geoff, about a nicely adjusted MPS for that set up if mine wasn't cooperating after putting it all back together. Still mulling it all over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| Tobra |
Jul 27 2006, 10:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 4,634 |
Why do you want to keep the D-jet as a primary goal, racing class or something?
Seems to me that you could do a lot with a more flexible system. Not to mention that all the little connectors and boots are old as the heads, not made of metal and have seen a lot of heat in their lifetime. |
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| DanT |
Jul 27 2006, 10:49 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Tobra @ Jul 27 2006, 09:43 PM) Why do you want to keep the D-jet as a primary goal, racing class or something? Seems to me that you could do a lot with a more flexible system. Not to mention that all the little connectors and boots are old as the heads, not made of metal and have seen a lot of heat in their lifetime. Injection is working perfectly, so why change. And yes, I don't want to add any more points than necessary with our currents points system. Besides, what I have seen with Megasquirt threads doesn't seem a whole lot more workable than Carbs.... I just like the point of trying to keep the car a sleeper....That is why I stayed with 4 bolt suspension, and the clean no nonsense interior and exterior... Just my goal with this car... |
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| Borderline |
Jul 27 2006, 11:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 8-February 05 From: San Juan Bautista, CA Member No.: 3,577 Region Association: Northern California |
yeah, I'm impressed with Jake's approach to business. I bought a Mallory Unilite from him and asked questions about the advance curve via email. A day or two later I got a phone call. Nice!
I would like to hear more about the engine your planning. I'm trying to figure out what I want to do. When I first looked a the D-jet and saw the condition of the wires and all the components and the performance limitations...it had to go! |
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| Bleyseng |
Jul 28 2006, 05:21 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,037 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Jul 27 2006, 09:26 PM) Still thinking about a euro p/c 2.0L with a slighly warmer cam and slight bump in compression or......... Maybe one of Jakes 2056 kits with new heads and all the goodies to run with D-jet. Keeping the stock FI is one of my main goals. As a matter of fact he suggested contacting you, Geoff, about a nicely adjusted MPS for that set up if mine wasn't cooperating after putting it all back together. Still mulling it all over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I can get you close but you will have to do a final adjustment on your MPS with a O2wideband meter or at a dyno. I have got mine running pretty sweet without lean spots and lots of hp. I like the 9 to 1 compression. |
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| Jake Raby |
Jul 28 2006, 06:29 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(grantsfo @ Jul 27 2006, 09:00 PM) If I were going to have a 4 built I would definitely use Jake as a resource. He is one of the most knowledgable T4 guys out there. Nice to see him taking a differnt approach to his business. Nothing with my business approach has changed. I have always done this type of thing for seriously interested parties and sometimes even with guys that aren't serious because they have no idea what they want or most importantly need! The only thing that has changed is my emphasis as I decided to leave the 914 portion of my business where it was and advance with other vehicles where my work was more needed and appreciated. I sold my 914 and virtually walked away, not caring what happened.. Believe it or not since then I have been able to get more done, I am more concentrated and I'm not as grumpy about little things! The things that I have to offer now have worked for years,very well and I will continue to sell these items, but my specific developments go to other vehicles that really benefit from the TIV engine in conversion state. Enough of that... Dan is looking into a 2056 kit based on my D jet version of tune, it's essentially a stock engine with 96s, my cam and my other upgrade parts that'll deliver about 115HP at the flywheel with great tunability, drivability with a good kick in the pants down low and through the upper midrange. The main thing is the fact that the engine will be easy to assemble, easy to tune and will drive much better than stock with cooler running temps. QUOTE Still thinking about a euro p/c 2.0L with a slighly warmer cam and slight bump in compression or......... That will cost more money than the 2056 (just a little) and you don't get the benefits of the kit. You have to depend on risking a machine shop to do your jobs right and you don't get any of my support. If you want this to be easy the kit is worth twice it's cost, everyone that has assembled one will say this. If there were benefits to staying with the 94mm pistons things might be different, but Mahle's quality today is down the drain and the KB pistons are much stronger and lighter with better rings than the Euro spec set ups from the current batches. I quit even stocking the Euro specs, especially after 4 sets of them had balance variations of 15+ grams and were impossible to balance. QUOTE How much are new heads? Info on LE head program Read it all here, don't just look at the price, view the data, the pics and the text with descriptions. You'll see that these heads are a steal at this price. QUOTE yeah, I'm impressed with Jake's approach to business. I bought a Mallory Unilite from him and asked questions about the advance curve via email. A day or two later I got a phone call. Nice! Thats what I try to offer to everyone, but sometimes I simply can't. I try to make product support the most important thing, especially when someone can hook up a wire backward and fry a 350 buck part. I have a new way of offering product/customer support coming up in November, it will make things much easier to support and every time I answer one persons question it will benefit future customers from now on, all they have to do is click a button. Okay, gotta go feed my fish and see if that big snapping Turtle (40+pounds!) thats been cleaning out my pond (sucker eats fish like you would not believe!) took the bait... See ya |
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| Tobra |
Jul 28 2006, 08:12 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 4,634 |
Watch yourself on that snapper, you want all ten of those fingers.
I still think I would get a new injection system and new heads when I do mine. |
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| Bleyseng |
Jul 28 2006, 09:23 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,037 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Tobra @ Jul 28 2006, 07:12 AM) Watch yourself on that snapper, you want all ten of those fingers. I still think I would get a new injection system and new heads when I do mine. Those New heads from Jake/Len look great! and the price isn't too bad either. Djet will work fine until someone comes up with a cheap alternative. |
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