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Window Falls Down, keeps popping off guide |
astronomerdave |
Nov 3 2009, 02:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 9,979 Region Association: Southern California |
My driver's side door window fell down in the door. Removing the panel I saw that it was just the little metal tang popped out of the round plastic piece which rolls in a guide at the bottom of the window. Popped it back in. Fine. Until the next day it popped out again. Like an idiot I did this two more times.
Finally last night I decided to figure out what's wrong. I popped it back in but left the door panel off so I could watch what was causing it to get stuck and pop off. I opened and closed the door, slammed it, revved the motor (to get vibrations), pounded on the door. Rolled the window up, down, fast, slow, part way, all the way, all combinations. I must have spent an hour and operated the window probably 100 times (probably about a month's worth of window action on the road). It worked perfectly. So I buttoned it up. This morning I went for a drive and when I tried to roll up the window it popped out again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) What is going on and how do I fix this? Thanks, --Dave |
detoxcowboy |
Nov 3 2009, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,294 Joined: 30-January 08 Member No.: 8,642 Region Association: Africa |
early or late model window regulator?
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astronomerdave |
Nov 3 2009, 02:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 9,979 Region Association: Southern California |
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oldschool |
Nov 3 2009, 02:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
My driver's side door window fell down in the door. Removing the panel I saw that it was just the little metal tang popped out of the round plastic piece which rolls in a guide at the bottom of the window. Popped it back in. Fine. Until the next day it popped out again. Like an idiot I did this two more times. Finally last night I decided to figure out what's wrong. I popped it back in but left the door panel off so I could watch what was causing it to get stuck and pop off. I opened and closed the door, slammed it, revved the motor (to get vibrations), pounded on the door. Rolled the window up, down, fast, slow, part way, all the way, all combinations. I must have spent an hour and operated the window probably 100 times (probably about a month's worth of window action on the road). It worked perfectly. So I buttoned it up. This morning I went for a drive and when I tried to roll up the window it popped out again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) What is going on and how do I fix this? Thanks, --Dave I have a 73 I dose the same thing on my car it looks like the tape/glue or what ever Porsche ....sorry VW use? has just fall off or something. any clues this would help me also. |
VaccaRabite |
Nov 3 2009, 02:24 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted, but I am not familiar with how the early regulators work since my car has late ones.
The plastic slide/bushing might need to be replaced too. maybe it is just worn. Zach |
oldschool |
Nov 3 2009, 02:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
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underthetire |
Nov 3 2009, 02:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted. Zach Zack what about the stuff that holds the window in place? where can I get that? My 73 had the glue issue. I used gaska-cinch and its been fine. (kinda like rubber cement). |
astronomerdave |
Nov 3 2009, 03:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 9,979 Region Association: Southern California |
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted, but I am not familiar with how the early regulators work since my car has late ones. The plastic slide/bushing might need to be replaced too. maybe it is just worn. Zach yeah, mine is early, it looks like this: early door diagram but the parts in question are not shown here. Has anyone seen where to get these plastic bushings, or do you have one you could part with? |
SirAndy |
Nov 3 2009, 04:29 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,628 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Unfortunately, it's usually the metal "nipple" that's worn which of course is attached to the part that moves inside the guide channel.
I spent hours trying to fix this to no avail and finally went and bought a good used channel with working guts and a good nipple. I doubt a new plastic piece will fix your problem. Keep us posted, i'd be interested in a working solution ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
r_towle |
Nov 3 2009, 05:59 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I thought George at AA had a brass or bronze solution for this?
No? I know he has the little buttons that ride up and down the front track on the early doors... Thought he made the little button....maybe that was for the later doors...hmmm Rich |
oldschool |
Nov 3 2009, 06:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted. Zach Zack what about the stuff that holds the window in place? where can I get that? My 73 had the glue issue. I used gaska-cinch and its been fine. (kinda like rubber cement). where do I get gaska-cinch? |
astronomerdave |
Nov 3 2009, 07:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 9,979 Region Association: Southern California |
Is it possible to replace the early mechanism with a late model mechanism (assuming I were to find one)?
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r_towle |
Nov 3 2009, 07:45 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
yes, but it would require you to modify the door frame on the inside.
Easiest way to do that would be to get a door so you can measure where all the new holes need to be etc. You should be able to find a cheap door in your part of the country....heck I have 4 sitting out back.. Rich |
SirAndy |
Nov 3 2009, 07:48 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,628 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Is it possible to replace the early mechanism with a late model mechanism (assuming I were to find one)? If you're handy with a welder, it can be done. But be aware that all the guts are different and so is the window channel and the trim pieces. It would be much easier to swap the whole door ... Or just get a good used early window mechanism ... Or find a fix for the broken nipple ... |
oldschool |
Nov 3 2009, 08:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
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