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SirAndy |
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Removing upholstery, seats and carpets reveal this on driver's side ('70/4). Screws are original to car and went through carpet and fastened into long. Do you have a closeup of those holes? In the pic above, they look like they're punched ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
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No holes on my passanger side.
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Do you have a closeup of those holes? In the pic above, they look like they're punched ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy This is another pic in my file, I'll keep looking but I don't think I have any "glamor" shots of the area in question. Paul Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() |
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Wohoo! I have one, too. Never noticed it before, so thanks OP! Learn something new every day.
Mine's only on the driver side ('70 -6). My passenger seat butts right up to the inner long, so I don't think the factory would've put one on that side. But what do I know... |
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None ![]() |
Andy's six tub doesn't have the holes.
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,257 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
Andy's six tub doesn't have the holes. And neither does my '70 /4 ... Which makes me think those were probably aftermarket items installed by dealers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
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I still haven't looked at mine yet. Too cold out there... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bruce.gif)
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After seeing a belt holder in the classifieds I thought I'd go out and see if I had the holes. I found the actual clip hanging by one of the four screws and the other 3 screws still in the remaining holes but not in the holder. It appears that the original screws were about #6 size oval head screws. I could not find one on the passenger side as the fixed passenger seat is tight to the long. I did not realize these were made of plastic. No part # on the holder.
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,257 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
Found one more on a 1970 factory all original /6 ...
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These would be great made from stainless , unless we can get mikey to make some up ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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Both my Euro -6 and US -4 (both MY 70) had them on the driver side only. Secured by oval head phillips screws. No holes located in the passenger side longs.
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so do we know if this is factory?
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Its got to be Yellow!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,432 Joined: 29-August 09 From: Orange Member No.: 10,742 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
None in my 70 /6 but I would buy a set if Mikey makes some!!
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So does the fact that my /6 has holders on both sides mean it's more valuable??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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So does the fact that my /6 has holders on both sides mean it's more valuable??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) No. It means that the DAPO or dealer drilled holes in your perfectly fine longs to add two pieces of aftermarket plastic. Your car just lost at least $1k in value ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
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My 1970 914-6 (#611, February 1970 build) does not have the holes. I also wonder if this was an aftermarket item. It should show up on a parts book if it was original.
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I checked out my two '70 /6's and two '71 /4 parts cars yesterday. The two '71's have the holes and one of them still had the holder in place never having been removed with the original carpet. Of the two /6's, the earliest, 0137 (01/70) did not have it. However, 0876 (03/70) did have the holes. I know of two other /6's built prior to 0876 that do not have the holes.
I'm not yet convinced these were aftermarket although it is possible. This needs more input from owners of '71 & '72 cars with the floppy belts. If they have the holes, then it must be a factory installation. I have a friend who is an original owner of a '71 /4. I will look into it when I get a chance. As I remember back in the day, the 3 point belt was still a relatively new safety item being an improvement over the lap belt. I also remember the vast majority of drivers never bothered wearing them anyway. At least half the cars on the road back then never had any restraints. Many that did were aftermarket installations. We need more input. Don |
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Senior member, and old dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,850 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
I checked out my two '70 /6's and two '71 /4 parts cars yesterday. The two '71's have the holes and one of them still had the holder in place never having been removed with the original carpet. Of the two /6's, the earliest, 0137 (01/70) did not have it. However, 0876 (03/70) did have the holes. I know of two other /6's built prior to 0876 that do not have the holes. I'm not yet convinced these were aftermarket although it is possible. This needs more input from owners of '71 & '72 cars with the floppy belts. If they have the holes, then it must be a factory installation. I have a friend who is an original owner of a '71 /4. I will look into it when I get a chance. As I remember back in the day, the 3 point belt was still a relatively new safety item being an improvement over the lap belt. I also remember the vast majority of drivers never bothered wearing them anyway. At least half the cars on the road back then never had any restraints. Many that did were aftermarket installations. We need more input. Don 914-6 #41 has the 4 holes on the driver’s side only. These are very clean holes. I am sure that there was a drilling jig set up for them. Note: My car had carpet and the part was not there when I got my car, just the holes! Bob Burton Bob Burton |
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I have 1970 6 # 1937 it has all the carpet out because it has been media blasted . It too has the 4 holes on the driver's side only. I have the plastic "holder" in a box somewhere , I think I have several. Remember the 70's had a non-movable passenger seat so the belt could not get hung up on that side. AL
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Installed on my '70/4 (but all 4 screw hole corners are cracked) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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