I was diging through my parts and came across this seat belt buckle holder:
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so I decided to install it today I pulled back my carpet and found the factory holes"
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Here is the belt in the holder:
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I have two of these, does one go on the passanger side also? I am a bit lazy to go and pull up the carpet to find out. The car is a '70 and has early interior.

My '70 /6 has them on both sides...

Interesting.. I just found 2 of these in one of my parts bins tonight. I was wondering what the hell they were for. Now I know!

How cool! I learn something new every day.

Never seen those before. My /6 didn't have them by the time I got it. That I remember anyway. I took the interior out at least 4 years ago.

My 72 has them , 73 doesnt. Retractable belts in 73-on

Man that looks handy. New to me.

Is there a part number on it anywhere?

My 70/4 has only the one for the driver's belt. There are no holes drilled in the interior longitudinal on the passenger's side. Sadly, my buckle holder has cracked by all 4 mounting holes 'cause I was sloppy getting into and out of the car all these years. If anyone has an uncracked holder they would like to part with, I like to hear from them.

Paul

AFAIK they are normally only on the driver's side.

So is it riveted to the carpet then, or into the long?

my car has 4 factory holes in the long on the driver side. I have not checked the passanger side yet.

I attached it using screws, but I probably used different screws than the factory.

No part number on it.

PET figure 812-00 #14 lists a "holder" 914.803.141.10 not shown in the figure and 4 screws. Maybe your part?

Nope, 914.803.141.10 is the retaining bar for the later model retractable seatbelts.


I wonder if this was a aftermarket part installed by the dealer?
Andy

The "factory" holes appear to have paint in them as if they were drilled before the tub was painted. I screwed it in place, but for all I know they may have been rivited.
I will check my passanger side this evening and if there are holes I'll post a picture.
Also for me to have the parts in my stash must mean that they came from another 14 that I had in the past. I think they may have been removed from my first 914 (which was wrecked in the early '90s).
I wonder if any other VW's used this part?
-Rob

I just checked on my '70 /4 (No carpet, so that was easy) and neither side has any holes in the long where such a thing could be mounted.


I suspect they were dealer installed. Where's Bowlsby when you need him?
Andy

I didn't find any such holes when I removed my carpet for repaint on my early '6.

I'll look at the /6 tub tonight. Since it's still bare with fresh paint on it it should be easy. Provided I can maneuver in my tiny garage...

Removing upholstery, seats and carpets reveal this on driver's side ('70/4). Screws are original to car and went through carpet and fastened into long.

Passenger side, rust holes yeah, but no holes for seat belt buckle holster....

Do you have a closeup of those holes? In the pic above, they look like they're punched ...
Andy

No holes on my passanger side.

This is another pic in my file, I'll keep looking but I don't think I have any "glamor" shots of the area in question.

Paul

Wohoo! I have one, too. Never noticed it before, so thanks OP! Learn something new every day.

Mine's only on the driver side ('70 -6). My passenger seat butts right up to the inner long, so I don't think the factory would've put one on that side. But what do I know...

Andy's six tub doesn't have the holes.

And neither does my '70 /4 ...


Which makes me think those were probably aftermarket items installed by dealers.
Andy

I still haven't looked at mine yet. Too cold out there...

After seeing a belt holder in the classifieds I thought I'd go out and see if I had the holes. I found the actual clip hanging by one of the four screws and the other 3 screws still in the remaining holes but not in the holder. It appears that the original screws were about #6 size oval head screws. I could not find one on the passenger side as the fixed passenger seat is tight to the long. I did not realize these were made of plastic. No part # on the holder.


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Found one more on a 1970 factory all original /6 ...

Andy

These would be great made from stainless , unless we can get mikey to make some up ??

Jack / Jaxdream

Both my Euro -6 and US -4 (both MY 70) had them on the driver side only. Secured by oval head phillips screws. No holes located in the passenger side longs.

so do we know if this is factory?

None in my 70 /6 but I would buy a set if Mikey makes some!!

So does the fact that my /6 has holders on both sides mean it's more valuable???

No. It means that the DAPO or dealer drilled holes in your perfectly fine longs to add two pieces of aftermarket plastic.

Your car just lost at least $1k in value ...
Andy

My 1970 914-6 (#611, February 1970 build) does not have the holes. I also wonder if this was an aftermarket item. It should show up on a parts book if it was original.

I checked out my two '70 /6's and two '71 /4 parts cars yesterday. The two '71's have the holes and one of them still had the holder in place never having been removed with the original carpet. Of the two /6's, the earliest, 0137 (01/70) did not have it. However, 0876 (03/70) did have the holes. I know of two other /6's built prior to 0876 that do not have the holes.
I'm not yet convinced these were aftermarket although it is possible. This needs more input from owners of '71 & '72 cars with the floppy belts. If they have the holes, then it must be a factory installation. I have a friend who is an original owner of a '71 /4. I will look into it when I get a chance.
As I remember back in the day, the 3 point belt was still a relatively new safety item being an improvement over the lap belt. I also remember the vast majority of drivers never bothered wearing them anyway. At least half the cars on the road back then never had any restraints. Many that did were aftermarket installations.
We need more input.
Don

914-6 #41 has the 4 holes on the driver’s side only. These are very clean holes. I am sure that there was a drilling jig set up for them. Note: My car had carpet and the part was not there when I got my car, just the holes!


Bob Burton



Bob Burton

I have 1970 6 # 1937 it has all the carpet out because it has been media blasted . It too has the 4 holes on the driver's side only. I have the plastic "holder" in a box somewhere , I think I have several. Remember the 70's had a non-movable passenger seat so the belt could not get hung up on that side. AL

Installed on my '70/4 (but all 4 screw hole corners are cracked)