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> Going to bring the car to the shop, I need some help
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post Mar 19 2004, 06:59 PM
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Well, I honestly have to agree with both nebreitling, and lapuwali. The important thing is that you drive your car. Djet will give the best performance. Carbs are better for those who know carbs and not FI. Once carbs are tuned right, they will give good service, but the drawbacks are cold starting, and altitude changes. Dirt is also a big problem. Find a mechanic who knows both, and take his advice. No offense meant to you, but at this point you should probably seek professional help for your 914 till you know more about the car. Don't make rash decisions. Weigh all your options before you spend 500 bucks on either one. I too once contemplated changing to carbs, but in the end it only made more determined to learn the Djet. I'm now a happy boy!!!!
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:02 PM
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Thats the thing Im just sick and tired of messing around with the fuel injection system.Im just a 16 old kid who really just wan't to be able to drive my porsche around. The mechanic said he could fix the fuel injection system if its somthing really bad or to make everything easy I can put carbs on it. He said it might be cheaper to fix the fuel injection if its something easy or it might cost lots and lots of money for the other stuff. I just want something to run. The mechanic said he has already done this to 3 other 914's. But tomarrow he is going to take a look at it and maybe its something easy he can fix. And I won't have to buy any big parts. Im just wonderin does $500-$600 sound about right for carbs and labor? Also what type of power will I lose on my car and what about smoothness.
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:12 PM
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500-600? depends on what carbs. One carb? no!
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:17 PM
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5-600 bucks for some decent shape twin carbs and labor sounds pretty damn fair. as vsg914 (what's your name (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) , vsg?) metioned, stay away from single carbs unless you're desperate.
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:19 PM
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:20 PM
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(weird_looking_cactus @ Mar 19 2004, 05:02 PM)
Also what type of power will I lose on my car and what about smoothness.

look at it this way: considering that your 914 has, oh, about ZERO horsepower right now, you'll be gaining about 80-85 hp with carbs.

that doesn't sound like much if all your friends have Z-28's and such, but just remember that it doesn't take much to push your little car around.
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:41 PM
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Im just wondering now that I will probley get to drive my car soon how fast can you guys get from 0-60? Also Im not getting one carb Im getting double carbs. Thats if the fuel injection system isn't something hard to fix. Then I will stay with it. What types of carbs can I get cause if Im going to get them I wan't to spend the extra money to get nice ones so I don't have to worrie about them.
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:45 PM
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If your going to buy carbs, spend the bucks for brand new ones. Weber 40 idf's should work fine for a stock 2.0L. Whole setup for about 500 or less.
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post Mar 19 2004, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(weird_looking_cactus @ Mar 19 2004, 05:41 PM)
Im just wondering now that I will probley get to drive my car soon how fast can you guys get from 0-60?

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not too terrribly fast, bro. that's not what our cars do well. learn to drive your car on twisty mountain roads (STAY SAFE) and at autocrosses, you'll have a blast.
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post Mar 19 2004, 08:07 PM
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I'm not saying to not take it in and have someone look at it, but it sounds like your 1/2 way there and if you can solve it yourself, you can buy a nice CD/MP3 player for your car with the $500

When I was 16 I had a funny looking foreign car that had a leaky rear brake cyl. I drove 30 miles to the only place that had rebuild parts and the next day at school in auto shop I pulled the cyl and rebuilt it. Took about an hour. I spent the next 2 1/2 hours trying to get it back on the car. The brake line would not go back on. Not enough hands to bend and turn it so it would catch or room to get another hand in there to help. Finally the shop teacher showed me the easy way. I think he was tired of hearing me swear at the car. He told me that things work or they don't and if they don't there is a logical reason why and to follow the steps to figure it out.

Good luck which ever way you go and let us know how it works out.
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Fixin djet is pretty damn easy if the guy is any sort of mechanic. If he is your typical VW trained in the backyard mechanic then I can see why he wants to put dual carbs on it.
Ahh, Grasshopper you must develope some auto mechanic skills and some of that is a figure out the puzzle mentality. Its all very simple and just takes alittle time to sort out. Since you are in Utah I would recommend to keep the Djet since it works soo much better when its cold than carbs.
I would first check out the FI relay to see if its working and power is going to the FI. If you don't have the injectors running for 3 seconds when you turn on the key then check this first.
Check the grounds Jeff B mentioned, also check and clean the tranny ground strap as a good ground for the engine is needed.

let us know if the injectors "Buzz" when you turn the key . You can hear it if its quiet.

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post Mar 19 2004, 08:58 PM
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I don't have to worrie about it being cold I live in southern utah in the desert about 2 hours from vegas. I think we got lucky and it snowed once last year about 2 inchs. The only thing I hear when I turn the key is the fuel pump. I have also replaced the ground strap thats hooked the tranny. I will have this figured out tomarrow once I bring it in the mechanic he is going to take a look at it so tomarrow. That is when I will find out if Im going to switch to carbs.
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