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> Rear sway bar vs 140 rear springs
rfuerst911sc
post Dec 9 2009, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Dec 9 2009, 07:17 AM) *

rfuerst911sc. your car is soft but balanced. set the rear shocks to full soft to start. all mods must be considered dynamic to the load(weight). the set up that works in a 914/4 is not allways gonna work in a heavier six. even if the six car is substantially lightened, dynamic weight transfer in the center of the car is greater as is foward weight transfer under braking. a stock six had bigger stock front torsions

start the front bar at 50%

poly bronze bushings reduce net spring rates 25-50# so your car is soft!


Sean thanks for the feedback. Yes I have the front sway bar currently set in the " middle " of the 3 locations available so I'm close to the 50% setting. I need to get the car on the road and sorted before doing some AX and I'll see what she can do. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 9 2009, 02:11 PM
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I'd like the car set up for agressive street driving. I have bilsteins front and rear. Front sway bar and Autmobile Atlanta 914-6 springs (100 lb?) on the rear. I am still putting the car back together. Is it worth adding a rear sway bar???
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post Dec 9 2009, 04:25 PM
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Yes, at this point in time, weld the brackets in place.
You can then choose to use it or not.

For springs, 140lb progressive springs are a nice choice...perfect for what you have in mind.

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post Dec 9 2009, 04:26 PM
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the car is still pissed off at you for flipping it.

Rich

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QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Dec 9 2009, 08:11 AM) *

tell us more about your car so we can give you better recomendations. you dont want to end up like papa smurf up here mowing the lawn at VIR. your lucky the grouds keeper wasnt union.


Wow...harsh! Actually, the suspension on Papa Smurf is about as good of a set up as you can ever get on a 914: ERP 935 front control arm set up with Fox remote resevoir shocks, 375 lb springs all around, camber boxes, reinforced trialing arms. It normally sticks like glue, I can run down a lot of car in turns and braking...

What happened at VIR is the 993 I had been chasing for about 4 laps decided to brake way too early into 1. It surprised me (I was probably about 1 foot from his bumper) so I dodged right and jabbed the brakes...but missed the brake pedal...which of course now made me go back and jab it again...waaay too late. Never spun or locked them up, just went through the turn a bit wide. I passed him going into the turn and stayed ahead all the way around.

Here are a few suspension pics (and yes, the underside of the car looks terrible)

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post Dec 9 2009, 04:44 PM
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the car is still pissed off at you for flipping it.

Rich



hmmm....how do you know the history of Papa Smurf? Huey is the one we flipped in Targa Newfoundland...different car. And yes, Huey is still pissed at us...never really runs right, pisses oil all over, handles bad, etc. ... needs an attitude adjustment ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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post Dec 9 2009, 06:16 PM
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Jealousy is the issue.
So, how did you piss off papa smurf?
You keep pulling the motor and putting in huey....that is degrading.
You leave it and take out Huey...yet another slap in the face.

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post Dec 9 2009, 06:58 PM
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Jealousy is the issue.
So, how did you piss off papa smurf?
You keep pulling the motor and putting in huey....that is degrading.
You leave it and take out Huey...yet another slap in the face.

Rich

Ah, but we haven't taken Papa's engine out for Huey in about 18 months. Got a different engine for Huey. But you have a point:

We used to swap engines - so Papa was pissed.
We got a bigger, but weaker engine for Huey - so Huey is pissed at the lack of power
We flipped Huey - 'nuff said there.
Papa has the better suspension - Huey is pissed...

To be honest, Papa Smurf has been running perfectly for a long time - ever since we got Huey his own engine. Huey, however, is the pissy little step son with multiple personalities even though he is the only one that gets waxed and shown off... like having two kids. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Dec 9 2009, 07:01 PM
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oh, and just fyi....you weren't wrong about flipping Papa...that's a whole 'nuther story....
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ok, so enough said...you flip them...they get pissed.

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post Dec 9 2009, 10:16 PM
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Geezer: whacha got on the front for a sway bar? those Bilsteins are great multi purpose shocks. do the 140s only is you have a front sway bar. a stock bar that can be stiffened or a 19mm bar

I strongly disagree about the rear bar
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post Dec 10 2009, 08:23 AM
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Who sells progressive 140Lb springs? Or are all 140 lb springs progressive?
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post Dec 10 2009, 08:27 AM
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I got mine from AA, about this time last year.

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post Dec 10 2009, 08:34 AM
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