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> Engine build / recipe thread, 2056cc - lots of pictures added
mango-smoothie
post Dec 12 2009, 02:25 PM
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started life as a GE 2L hydraulic lifter engine. ran perfect, excellent compressions, no oil burning, but i was bored and needed a winter project.

so i started to rip it apart the other night. no issues except one valve stem had a weird wear on the end. oil pump gear a little worn too.

heads are in awesome shape. too bad i'm not using them (1.8 41/34mm valve heads in the mail). P/C's were also in great shape (cross hatching still visible).

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post Dec 12 2009, 03:17 PM
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how are you going to use it? is it an AX car?
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post Dec 12 2009, 04:27 PM
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just a fun weekend car. warm weather, no rain type of setup.

looking for usable bottom end, but good mid range. won't be a high rev-er
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post Dec 12 2009, 05:16 PM
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Fuch the 103's, unless you have the coin for nickies stroke it.

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post Dec 13 2009, 12:03 AM
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are the 103's that bad? my crank is mint and i don't really want to stroke it.
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post Dec 13 2009, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(mango-smoothie @ Dec 12 2009, 10:03 PM) *

are the 103's that bad?

Not enough meat on the cylinder walls ...
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post Dec 13 2009, 03:11 AM
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The best receipes (combos) come from from Jake Raby with strict compliance to his specs. He has tested just about everything and could tell you exactly why your speculative motor build will fail or fail to perform.
Check out: aircooledtechnology.com & link to the type iv store as well.
The most informed and proven info you will receive.
For a street driven, stockish redline, torquey cam for a 2056 with single valve springs Jake recommended his 9530 cam to me.
Interesting, that CB oil pump looks like a Melling but I paid $80 for mine.
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post Dec 13 2009, 03:46 AM
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Jakes a good good guy and has great stuff, but he's far from the only vendor.
Who ever you get your cam and lifters from they should be a matched set, Jake will only sell you a whole valvetrain kit.

Jake couldn't have sold you a Melling pump and that's a stock pump.
I see the CB link, total garbage pump I have a couple here, worth more to me as scrap.. Get a shadeck, 26mm for small engine up to 2270cc or 30mm for big.

Stay 2056 or spend money.
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post Dec 13 2009, 03:58 AM
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Jake couldn't have sold you a Melling pump and that's a stock pump.


I was referring to the pump he's considering buying in the link to CB.
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post Dec 13 2009, 04:01 AM
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Realized and editted that, sorry I've hated those pump's since the 80's
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post Dec 13 2009, 12:46 PM
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ok - i do appreciate the comments you guys.


this is one of the build threads i am following:
http://www.danallum.com/aircooled/engine_project.htm
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post Dec 13 2009, 03:02 PM
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where can i buy this type 1 pump in Canada (Mark)?
oil galley plugs?




Ummmm I just noticed you're in Canada, where abouts?

I have a whole stroker kit in the for sale section, I have the pump, galley plugs, case fully preped for a DTM...... you might want to PM me.
I'd make a deal.

Can't help you with the pistons and cam though, already sold
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post Dec 14 2009, 12:47 PM
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oil galley plugs?




Ummmm I just noticed you're in Canada, where abouts?

I have a whole stroker kit in the for sale section, I have the pump, galley plugs, case fully preped for a DTM...... you might want to PM me.
I'd make a deal.

Can't help you with the pistons and cam though, already sold

thanks for the offer Mark, but that is out of my price range.

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post Dec 15 2009, 09:12 AM
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AAs 103mm are ok as long as you build it conservative. under 9 compression
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post Dec 15 2009, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(mango-smoothie @ Dec 13 2009, 12:46 PM) *

ok - i do appreciate the comments you guys.

i can't remember where i found the 2056-914 parts list, but here it is.


That's a Raby 2056 Kit build sheet
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post Jan 27 2010, 02:15 PM
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update:

tapped and plugged all 11 oil gallies

in the process of getting the crank gear off (what a bitch!)
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post Jan 27 2010, 02:27 PM
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in the process of getting the crank gear off (what a bitch!)



the new crank comes with a new gear, I thought... to be bolted on at time of assembly.
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QUOTE(mango-smoothie @ Dec 13 2009, 11:46 AM) *

ok - i do appreciate the comments you guys.

i can't remember where i found the 2056-914 parts list, but here it is.

looks like i'll go with AA 96's
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-96mm-PIS...sQ5fAccessories

where can i buy this type 1 pump in Canada (Mark)?
http://www.danallum.com/aircooled/oil_pump.htm

oil galley plugs:
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewprodu...020&cartid=

this is one of the build threads i am following:
http://www.danallum.com/aircooled/engine_project.htm


Thats not an engine parts list- thats a list of what was in my 2008-2009 2056cc engine kit.
Its no longer accurate so it looks like its time to kill those lists, nothing like supplying free parts lists so people can buy their parts from other sources.

They'll be gone in a jiffy!

I am realigning my retail store sales to incorporate more component sub-assemblies than individual parts.. Its hard to provide compatible parts when we aren't supplying all the components and compliance is VERY important. Thats why I only offer complete valve train kits along with camshafts.
We'd be happy to help you design an engine thats effective..

BTW- if you had my engine rebuild DVD you would have learned a very effective way of splitting the case halves without a single special tool and you would have never needed to apply a device directly to any part of the crankcase..

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post Jan 27 2010, 02:51 PM
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FWIW the heads in the photo are 2.0 bus heads that have been flycut quite a bit. The scrap man will love them!

Hope the project goes together well!
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post Jan 27 2010, 05:06 PM
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I'm not using the list as a parts shopping list (it's not detailed enough for that).

I do have the bugme T4 DVD as well.
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