Thinking about a new dash layout!, Ain't got no CNC machinery to make it. |
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Thinking about a new dash layout!, Ain't got no CNC machinery to make it. |
fiid |
Mar 20 2004, 07:00 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
This is my design for a new dash layout. The idea is that it should be possible to see the guages through a momo wheel.
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Aaron Cox |
Mar 20 2004, 07:02 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i dunt see it.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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fiid |
Mar 20 2004, 07:07 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
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fiid |
Mar 20 2004, 07:11 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
Obviously I havent added lamp spaces for all the warning lights yet - will get to that.
Anyone interested in something similar??? Got any feedback??? Got a machine that could knock a few out??? What's the interest level??? The outside pods are for VDO 2 1/16" guages - I am going to have Fuel and Water Temp guage, with Tach and Speedo in the center. I have a VDO tach remounted to fit in an enclosure the same size as the speedo - don't know if they have an off-the-shelf tach in that size - might be better. Fiid. |
fiid |
Mar 20 2004, 07:11 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
This is my 1000th post!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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djm914-6 |
Mar 20 2004, 07:23 PM
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Happiness is: Getting on the road Group: Members Posts: 1,864 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Burlington MA Member No.: 248 Region Association: None |
Don't need a CNC for glassfibre or carbonfibre!
Make a mold and pour your own! |
lapuwali |
Mar 20 2004, 07:35 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
One hardly needs CNC machinery to make something like this. With some patience, a hand drill, a file, and a nibbling tool, this could be made from a sheet of Al or steel quite easily. I've made decent simple dashes out of 2mm Al using nothing but hand tools.
Look at www.egauges.com to get an idea of what VDO gauges are available and how much they cost. One issue is I'm unsure if an aftermarket 2 1/16" gauge is available from VDO or anyone else that matches the stock fuel level sender. egauges doesn't list one, and I've not seen one on any other online store. Have you tried making a paper or cardboard template to try out the visibility of this dash with a smaller wheel? My knee jerk reaction is you'll be able to see the tach and speedo fine, but you won't be able to see the fuel or temp gauges. Either the wheel or your hands will block the view. |
fiid |
Mar 20 2004, 08:39 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
Yeah - I realize I don't actually need CNC for this - but I was wondering if anyone else was interested, and if so - then maybe it would be worth doing a run of them
I don't have the tools to cut one out (I don't even have the tools you mention :-) ) and a CNC laser cutter was the first thing to come to mind (least effort) |
fiid |
Mar 20 2004, 08:41 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(djm914-6 @ Mar 20 2004, 05:23 PM) Don't need a CNC for glassfibre or carbonfibre! Make a mold and pour your own! Nope, but you do need a kevlar layer in there for safety reasons. TAP Plastics in SF told me that THEY could hardly cut the kevlar stuff. I'm pretty sure something like 2mm aluminium is the way to go! |
lapuwali |
Mar 20 2004, 09:13 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Kevlar for safety reasons? Dunno where you heard that Kevlar nonsense, but it's just that. The dash is hardly a structural part (other than supporting the weight of the gauges, which is pretty small), and even structural parts can and are regularly made from fiberglass with no Kevlar. A fiberglass part would probably be the better choice if you wanted to make several, although making the mold would be just about as difficult (and require as many tools) as making one copy from flat Al sheet. Fiberglass work is messy and smelly.
As for the tools, a nibbler is about $20. A file is about $10. We're not talking bank breaking money here. A run on a CNC machine would cost a LOT more. IMHO, find your gauges and make the first copy out of corrugated cardboard with a pair of scissors and an Xacto knife. You'll be able to check everything and get the wring done and operational before cutting any metal or making any molds. If you do find a 2" VDO gauge that matches the stock sender, let me know. |
Joe Bob |
Mar 20 2004, 09:19 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
You might want to consider differnt gauges....here the new CHT volmeter gauge I just had made....
(IMG:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads2/dual1079836254.jpg) (IMG:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads2/dual11079836275.jpg) |
75boxster |
Mar 20 2004, 09:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Ft. Collins, CO Member No.: 1,488 |
Can't take credit for cluster other than the conversion to
the digital gauges and the addition of the low oil pressure and low fuel idot lights. (IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~ihatemyboss/dcp00586.JPG) |
MattR |
Mar 20 2004, 09:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
You can buy black fiberglass in sheet. To cut it just print out your design an cut it out with a dremel tool and clean up with a sanding block. Just make SURE to wear eye, mouth, and skin protection (gloves). You will probably also want a long sleeve shirt. That stuff gets in your skin and stuff almost worse then carbon fiber.
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jonwatts |
Mar 21 2004, 12:55 AM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
QUOTE(mikez @ Mar 20 2004, 07:19 PM) You might want to consider differnt gauges....here the new CHT volmeter gauge I just had made.... Them look like aircraft gauges. |
dinomium |
Mar 21 2004, 02:35 AM
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Git on a chair son, all the good stuff is goin over yer head! Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,777 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Bremerton, WA Member No.: 74 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have never dealt with these guys, but they do have a different take on the displays..
http://www.9xauto.com/914.html |
Chris914n6 |
Mar 21 2004, 04:15 AM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,341 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Molded ABS is cheap and pretty easy if you can make a wood buck. Or go thick and only bend the bottom under.
Chris |
fiid |
Mar 22 2004, 04:44 AM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(lapuwali @ Mar 20 2004, 07:13 PM) Kevlar for safety reasons? Dunno where you heard that Kevlar nonsense, but it's just that. The dash is hardly a structural part (other than supporting the weight of the gauges, which is pretty small), and even structural parts can and are regularly made from fiberglass with no Kevlar. A fiberglass part would probably be the better choice if you wanted to make several, although making the mold would be just about as difficult (and require as many tools) as making one copy from flat Al sheet. Fiberglass work is messy and smelly. As for the tools, a nibbler is about $20. A file is about $10. We're not talking bank breaking money here. A run on a CNC machine would cost a LOT more. IMHO, find your gauges and make the first copy out of corrugated cardboard with a pair of scissors and an Xacto knife. You'll be able to check everything and get the wring done and operational before cutting any metal or making any molds. If you do find a 2" VDO gauge that matches the stock sender, let me know. Uh no - wrong end of the stick. You don't want fibreglass in the cabin because when it breaks it splinters. In a collision situation - you don't want them picking shard of the guage cluster out of your head. Same reason they don't use wood in car interiors anymore. Nibbler looks cool - I'l get one and see how it goes. I do know how much a file costs - and in fact I have several. |
Engman |
Mar 22 2004, 07:27 AM
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Zoisite Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,349 Joined: 25-March 03 From: New Albany, IN Member No.: 475 |
Looks like a cad drawing - send it to me and I will see if I can get you one.
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tod914 |
Mar 22 2004, 08:33 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
There use to be a 911 style dash cap that adapted to the 914. Look very nice from the 2 cars I seen it in. Maybe check into that.
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Steve Thacker |
Mar 22 2004, 09:55 AM
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UMMMPH Yea Baby Yea ! UMMMPH Group: Members Posts: 1,089 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Pickerington, Ohio Member No.: 113 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(75boxster @ Mar 20 2004, 11:25 PM) Can't take credit for cluster other than the conversion to the digital gauges and the addition of the low oil pressure and low fuel idot lights. (IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~ihatemyboss/dcp00586.JPG) MAN THOSE ARE BEAUTIFUL! Where did you get them? Also are they a pain to hookup? Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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