 Question regarding Shift linkage., Ok, so..... |
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| RiqueMar |
 Feb 1 2010, 08:42 PM
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Enrique Allen Mar  Group: Members Posts: 2,169 Joined: 28-August 08 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 9,478 Region Association: Southern California 
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Ok, so my car is a 1970-4. Engine swap to a converted 2.0L with a side-shift trans.
I know for a successful conversion, you need the post-73 shift bushing which you basically pop/muscle in to the old linkage output hole, as well as the later style engine bar. Here lies my question. Can I simply buy a later style (post-73) shift linkage and connect it up? Or do I take the original linkage and modify it? OR do I need the later style linkage and modify that? Thank you for helping the newbie. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
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| underthetire |
Feb 1 2010, 08:47 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Feb 1 2010, 06:42 PM)  Ok, so my car is a 1970-4. Engine swap to a converted 2.0L with a side-shift trans. I know for a successful conversion, you need the post-73 shift bushing which you basically pop/muscle in to the old linkage output hole, as well as the later style engine bar. Here lies my question. Can I simply buy a later style (post-73) shift linkage and connect it up? Or do I take the original linkage and modify it? OR do I need the later style linkage and modify that? Thank you for helping the newbie. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) Think you need ALL the later stuff, and the special conversion bushing for the firewall. Even the gear shifter is different i think |
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| raw1298 |
Feb 1 2010, 08:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
You will need evrything from the shifter back as well as the conversion bushing on the fire wall. The bushing is available through pelican parts. There was a list of needed parts here on the site somewhere. I am getting ready to do the same with mine.
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| '73-914kid |
Feb 1 2010, 09:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California  |
The linkage is easy enough to come by. If I decide to not use mine for a possible f-production race car project, you can have it..
-Ethan |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 1 2010, 09:40 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Feb 1 2010, 06:42 PM) I know for a successful conversion, you need the post-73 shift bushing which you basically pop/muscle in to the old linkage output hole Nope. The 73 and later firewall shift bushing WILL NOT fit in your car. However, the aftermarket conversion bushing made specifically for this purpose does ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
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| RiqueMar |
Feb 2 2010, 10:58 AM
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Enrique Allen Mar Group: Members Posts: 2,169 Joined: 28-August 08 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 9,478 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 1 2010, 07:40 PM) QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Feb 1 2010, 06:42 PM) I know for a successful conversion, you need the post-73 shift bushing which you basically pop/muscle in to the old linkage output hole Nope. The 73 and later firewall shift bushing WILL NOT fit in your car. However, the aftermarket conversion bushing made specifically for this purpose does ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy Thanks Andy, but as always, I got the 2 mixed up. The conversion bushing is what I bought off of Pelican. Its the white one in this picture.... (IMG:http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Emar06/IMG_0084.jpg) Ok, so my list is..... -Side-Shift trans -Post 73 Engine Bar -Conversion bushing -Post 73 linkage -Post 73' shifter? <------ ? How will I know a shifter is a late style? |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 2 2010, 11:06 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
You will also need the engine mount brackets on the engine itself, the rubber mounts that connect it to the crossbar, the bar itself, and the end pieces where the crossbar mounts to the body. The late shifter doesn't have a ball and bushing on the bottom, it has a clamping sleeve that attaches to the front shift rod. This clamp is also the adjustment point.
The Cap'n |
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| RiqueMar |
Feb 2 2010, 11:15 AM
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Enrique Allen Mar Group: Members Posts: 2,169 Joined: 28-August 08 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 9,478 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Feb 2 2010, 09:06 AM) You will also need the engine mount brackets on the engine itself, the rubber mounts that connect it to the crossbar, the bar itself, and the end pieces where the crossbar mounts to the body. The late shifter doesn't have a ball and bushing on the bottom, it has a clamping sleeve that attaches to the front shift rod. This clamp is also the adjustment point. The Cap'n Thanks Cap'n. I'm kinda there already as the engine is mounted, if I'm not mistaken, this picture shows it all.... (IMG:http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Emar06/5aec33ee.jpg) I think I'm just going to take the easy way out on this one and purchase the shift linkage... Is this the type of shifter you are referring to? (IMG:http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Emar06/IMG_0997.jpg) |
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| McMark |
Feb 2 2010, 02:13 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
That is a side-shifter gear selector.
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| RiqueMar |
Feb 3 2010, 12:20 AM
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Enrique Allen Mar Group: Members Posts: 2,169 Joined: 28-August 08 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 9,478 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 2 2010, 12:13 PM) That is a side-shifter gear selector. Awesome. Now, having established that, I have another. Can I simply take of the clamp and pop it on a different shifter of better condition? |
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| rhodyguy |
Feb 3 2010, 10:42 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
yes.
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| Zardozz |
Feb 3 2010, 12:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: 31-March 08 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 8,874 Region Association: None |
Just so I'm clear. ALL the shift linkage has to be changed when going with a side shift trans? From the shifter back?
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| McMark |
Feb 3 2010, 12:40 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Can I simply take of the clamp and pop it on a different shifter of better condition? Yes, as long as it's another late shifter. Early shifters have a ball on the end.Bill, yes, no part of the shift rod is the same. |
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| Zardozz |
Feb 3 2010, 12:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: 31-March 08 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 8,874 Region Association: None |
Well craps, no wonder it's so sloppy.
Ya know, the girlfriend asked once when it was going to be done.... HAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA! |
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