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> Head studs, Type 1 on a Type 4?
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post Feb 20 2010, 02:13 PM
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Missing one head stud for my TIV. Can i use the Type 1 head studs? I have several used Type 1 cases lying around.

I'm guessing its not a good idea to just replace the one head stud since the Type 1 head studs are much thicker and could have a different expansion rate?

What if i replaced them all?
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post Feb 20 2010, 02:39 PM
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Best thing to do is ask for one in your area, a lot of guys here have junker motors laying around.
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post Feb 20 2010, 03:44 PM
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I may have one laying around. You need the long one or the short one?
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post Feb 20 2010, 05:53 PM
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No the T1 and the T4 are not the same.
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post Feb 20 2010, 10:25 PM
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I need the short one... how much shipped to 95838?
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post Feb 21 2010, 12:36 AM
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PM me your address and I will send it out on Monday. You can send money for shipping if you want but no need to.
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post Feb 21 2010, 02:49 AM
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PM sent. Thanks!
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post Feb 21 2010, 12:20 PM
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The head stud designs are critical. Randomly swapping out studs that kinda look alike but are different diameter, different length and possibly different material is a no-no. Kinda like trying different size bullets in a gun to see if they will work.

The studs are carefully designed to apply a certain force on the head for the torque on the nut. The idea is to hold the head in place with enough torque so the head doesn't move away from the cylinder when the engine fires. Stud stretch is carefully designed in, and the expansion and contraction due to temperature plays a part in the design of the stud and the torque.

Different diameter, different length or different material will make the odd stud behave unlike the others.
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post Feb 21 2010, 12:33 PM
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post Feb 21 2010, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(kwales @ Feb 21 2010, 01:20 PM) *

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The head stud designs are critical. Randomly swapping out studs that kinda look alike but are different diameter, different length and possibly different material is a no-no. Kinda like trying different size bullets in a gun to see if they will work.

The studs are carefully designed to apply a certain force on the head for the torque on the nut. The idea is to hold the head in place with enough torque so the head doesn't move away from the cylinder when the engine fires. Stud stretch is carefully designed in, and the expansion and contraction due to temperature plays a part in the design of the stud and the torque.

Different diameter, different length or different material will make the odd stud behave unlike the others.

.....................You are correct- completely.......M.M.
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post Feb 21 2010, 06:24 PM
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Yeah i was concerned about all that expansion rate mambo jumbo.

I guess, like on other cars where people install ARP head studs and such to increase the torque on the head for turbo applications and such isn't possible with the type IV?

I figured if you were consistent, it shouldn't matter.
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post Feb 21 2010, 06:57 PM
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Yeah i was concerned about all that expansion rate mambo jumbo.

I guess, like on other cars where people install ARP head studs and such to increase the torque on the head for turbo applications and such isn't possible with the type IV?

I figured if you were consistent, it shouldn't matter.



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post Feb 24 2010, 04:32 AM
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Thanks for the hook up on the head studs Randy!
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post Feb 26 2010, 10:23 AM
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I am glad to be able to help. Nice meeting you! Let me know if you need anything else.
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