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> 916 vs. 1972 Dino, Head to Head
MikeSpraggi
post Feb 26 2010, 06:35 AM
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Maybe this has been posted before in the past, but as I was fantisizing things I would probably never get to see or experience, in a head to head road course event, which one would take the checkered flag? Cars pecs seem pretty close.

916 - 2.4ltr, 190 hp, 159. ft. lbs@5200, wgt - 2000 lbs

1972 Dino, 195 hp, 167 ft. lbs@7600, wgt- 2381 lbs

BTW I absolutely love both (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 26 2010, 07:27 AM
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Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 26 2010, 07:35 AM
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916 would win.

The NARF would break down.
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post Feb 26 2010, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Yep, because the same engine/tranny was used in the Fiat Dino. The Dino's engine/tranny combo shared the same oil system - something a friend of mine who used to work for Ferrari called "a disaster".

One of my greatest regrets was not having the sense or money to buy an absolutely cherry, perfect 246 with T-tops that was being sold by an exotic car dealership that used to be on El Camino in Palo Alto, near Rickey's Hyatt, back about 1982. The car was too expensive for me - $22,000. Too bad I didn't realize that it was an even better investment than it was as a car!
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post Feb 26 2010, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(pbanders @ Feb 26 2010, 08:42 AM) *

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Yep, because the same engine/tranny was used in the Fiat Dino. The Dino's engine/tranny combo shared the same oil system - something a friend of mine who used to work for Ferrari called "a disaster".


Gorgeous as it was to look at, the Lamborghini Miura had the same design "feature." I can't imagine why they thought it was a Good Idea to run dirty engine oil through a transmission, or to take a chance on a piece of a synchro working its way into an engine bearing.

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One of my greatest regrets was not having the sense or money to buy an absolutely cherry, perfect 246 with T-tops that was being sold by an exotic car dealership that used to be on El Camino in Palo Alto, near Rickey's Hyatt, back about 1982. The car was too expensive for me - $22,000. Too bad I didn't realize that it was an even better investment than it was as a car!


Ouch! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Well, $22K was a lot of money for a used car back in '82.
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post Feb 26 2010, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I didn't think about that .... two NAR*'s competing head to head. I don't think the backlash was quite as bad for the Dino/Ferrari vs. the 914(and variants)/Prosche.
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post Feb 26 2010, 09:18 AM
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Whats funny about the statements about the dino not being a real ferrari is that last I check the Fiat Dino is worth more money then a Ferrari Dino, 308 and Testerosa.
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post Feb 26 2010, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(MikeSpraggi @ Feb 26 2010, 06:46 AM) *

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I didn't think about that .... two NAR*'s competing head to head. I don't think the backlash was quite as bad for the Dino/Ferrari vs. the 914(and variants)/Prosche.

Oh yeah, it was bad in the Ferrari world...didn't even have a Ferrari badge on the Dino...hence it never was a real Ferrari. The only Ferrari Dino was the 308GT4, but that had a V8 and not the traditional Dino V6 (and 4 seats...in a mid engine car).

Either way, I'd take the 916 in a heartbeat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 26 2010, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(turboman808 @ Feb 26 2010, 08:18 AM) *

Whats funny about the statements about the dino not being a real ferrari is that last I check the Fiat Dino is worth more money then a Ferrari Dino, 308 and Testerosa.


... and I can remember seeing those for sale for $15K, too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 26 2010, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Feb 26 2010, 08:51 AM) *

QUOTE(MikeSpraggi @ Feb 26 2010, 06:46 AM) *

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I didn't think about that .... two NAR*'s competing head to head. I don't think the backlash was quite as bad for the Dino/Ferrari vs. the 914(and variants)/Prosche.

Oh yeah, it was bad in the Ferrari world...didn't even have a Ferrari badge on the Dino...hence it never was a real Ferrari. The only Ferrari Dino was the 308GT4, but that had a V8 and not the traditional Dino V6 (and 4 seats...in a mid engine car).

Either way, I'd take the 916 in a heartbeat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



I would take the Dino anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Feb 26 2010, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 26 2010, 11:02 AM) *

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QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I didn't think about that .... two NAR*'s competing head to head. I don't think the backlash was quite as bad for the Dino/Ferrari vs. the 914(and variants)/Prosche.

Oh yeah, it was bad in the Ferrari world...didn't even have a Ferrari badge on the Dino...hence it never was a real Ferrari. The only Ferrari Dino was the 308GT4, but that had a V8 and not the traditional Dino V6 (and 4 seats...in a mid engine car).

Either way, I'd take the 916 in a heartbeat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I would take the Dino anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!

.....................Thats just because you ALREADY HAVE all the 914,s in your collection.
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post Feb 26 2010, 10:44 AM
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Hemmings Sports and Exotics (April 2008) did a comparison of the 914/6 and the Dino. Here are the specs for the stock 914/6 vs. the Dino. The 916 with the 2.4S 190HP and top speed of 145mph, would most likely beat all the Dino's except in the top speed area. I love the look of the Dino but agree with Hemmings that easily the 914/6 is the choice based on repair costs. I like to drive my cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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post Feb 26 2010, 11:07 AM
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Dino, definetly my favorite car. Guess that's why I also love the 904 so much. Simular lines. Don't worry if it breaks down or maintenance costs. It's so nice to look at, it doesn't matter if it runs.
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post Feb 26 2010, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(ME733 @ Feb 26 2010, 09:41 AM) *

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 26 2010, 11:02 AM) *

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Feb 26 2010, 08:51 AM) *

QUOTE(MikeSpraggi @ Feb 26 2010, 06:46 AM) *

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I didn't think about that .... two NAR*'s competing head to head. I don't think the backlash was quite as bad for the Dino/Ferrari vs. the 914(and variants)/Prosche.

Oh yeah, it was bad in the Ferrari world...didn't even have a Ferrari badge on the Dino...hence it never was a real Ferrari. The only Ferrari Dino was the 308GT4, but that had a V8 and not the traditional Dino V6 (and 4 seats...in a mid engine car).

Either way, I'd take the 916 in a heartbeat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I would take the Dino anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes and I hate to rub it in but...........................

.....................Thats just because you ALREADY HAVE all the 914,s in your collection.

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.....................Thats just because you ALREADY HAVE all the 914,s in your collection.
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Very Cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) I'll bet that car doesn't see the sun very often.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 26 2010, 11:25 AM) *

QUOTE(ME733 @ Feb 26 2010, 09:41 AM) *

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 26 2010, 11:02 AM) *

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QUOTE(MikeSpraggi @ Feb 26 2010, 06:46 AM) *

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I didn't think about that .... two NAR*'s competing head to head. I don't think the backlash was quite as bad for the Dino/Ferrari vs. the 914(and variants)/Prosche.

Oh yeah, it was bad in the Ferrari world...didn't even have a Ferrari badge on the Dino...hence it never was a real Ferrari. The only Ferrari Dino was the 308GT4, but that had a V8 and not the traditional Dino V6 (and 4 seats...in a mid engine car).

Either way, I'd take the 916 in a heartbeat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I would take the Dino anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes and I hate to rub it in but...........................

.....................Thats just because you ALREADY HAVE all the 914,s in your collection.

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I know George ...... saw it when I came to visit AA (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) .
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QUOTE(Michael N @ Feb 26 2010, 09:44 AM) *

Hemmings Sports and Exotics (April 2008) did a comparison of the 914/6 and the Dino. Here are the specs for the stock 914/6 vs. the Dino. The 916 with the 2.4S 190HP and top speed of 145mph, would most likely beat all the Dino's except in the top speed area. I love the look of the Dino but agree with Hemmings that easily the 914/6 is the choice based on repair costs. I like to drive my cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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Good point, but from a total enthusiast point of view, the 916 matches up better in price and performance with the 246 IMHO.

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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 26 2010, 01:25 PM) *

QUOTE(ME733 @ Feb 26 2010, 09:41 AM) *

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 26 2010, 11:02 AM) *

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Feb 26 2010, 08:51 AM) *

QUOTE(MikeSpraggi @ Feb 26 2010, 06:46 AM) *

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM) *

Wasn't the Dino, in its day, considered a NARF? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I didn't think about that .... two NAR*'s competing head to head. I don't think the backlash was quite as bad for the Dino/Ferrari vs. the 914(and variants)/Prosche.

Oh yeah, it was bad in the Ferrari world...didn't even have a Ferrari badge on the Dino...hence it never was a real Ferrari. The only Ferrari Dino was the 308GT4, but that had a V8 and not the traditional Dino V6 (and 4 seats...in a mid engine car).

Either way, I'd take the 916 in a heartbeat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I would take the Dino anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes and I hate to rub it in but...........................

.....................Thats just because you ALREADY HAVE all the 914,s in your collection.

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....................Like I said....
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QUOTE(turboman808 @ Feb 26 2010, 08:18 AM) *

Whats funny about the statements about the dino not being a real ferrari is that last I check the Fiat Dino is worth more money then a Ferrari Dino, 308 and Testerosa.



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Not the last time I checked, You can still buy a Fiat Dino for <50k, Ferrari Dino is 150k on the low, upper 200's for flares and chairs, mint ect.

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Ferrari - mmmmmmm
As rare as the 916 is, the looks can be cloned for $500 worth of fiberglass. and I believe George said his is a 914-4 vin.

If I had the money, Dino wins, hands down.
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