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| jerome3.2 |
 Feb 28 2010, 07:43 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 6-May 09 From: toronto Member No.: 10,339 Region Association: None  |
Hello,
That has been a difficult question to ask. I assume that many of you are aware of the seeling prices for a Jack Raby's engine. I have used the search engine but I have not been able to come across something interesting and clear enough. I have had a look on his website and it seems to be a tough process to get a quote. As I do not want to annoy him with my newbie questions (He seems to be quite busy)and I would like to be sure I can afford this engine prior to discussing with him, I rely on your knowledge. I would like to get a 2270 performer as I intend to track my future 914 a little. Would it be a good choice? Maybe a 2056 performer should be enough? I feel a bit like a dummie with this post Thanks for your help and your advice. |
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| SFOB914 |
Feb 28 2010, 07:50 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 13-June 06 From: San Bruno, CA Member No.: 6,217 Region Association: None |
You don't know Jack. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
His name is Jake Raby. Sorry no info on his engines. |
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| craig downs |
Feb 28 2010, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 25-November 05 From: mira loma ca. Member No.: 5,189 Region Association: Southern California |
You should never feel like a dummy here. Jake always likes to answer ?s about his engines and he would be the best person to ask. I purchased a 2270 performer engine kit a couple of years ago and at that time it was $5,500 just to give you an idea. This engine was fun to assemble and it runs awesome.
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| jerome3.2 |
Feb 28 2010, 08:05 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 6-May 09 From: toronto Member No.: 10,339 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(craig downs @ Feb 28 2010, 05:57 PM)  You should never feel like a dummy here. Jake always likes to answer ?s about his engines and he would be the best person to ask. I purchased a 2270 performer engine kit a couple of years ago and at that time it was $5,500 just to give you an idea. This engine was fun to assemble and it runs awesome. Oups sorry for the spelling, 5500 is only for the kit and I have two right hands!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| sww914 |
Feb 28 2010, 08:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
Jack. Hee hee. Jack Raby, sounds like a spy novel dude. Agent Jack Raby.
His (Jake's) engines are expensive, I'm sure he can tell you why. I don't know about Agent Jack Raby's prices. |
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| tat2dphreak |
Feb 28 2010, 09:07 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
jake's kits do come with the video of how-to, and he will answer your questions. Jake can help you get an engine plan together.
last I saw tho, his kits were going to go up in price. |
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| Randal |
Feb 28 2010, 09:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
What kind of "Jake Raby" engine are you interested in building? Pricing can get very expensive, just for parts, depending upon the engine configuration.
What do you want to build? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Here's an example:  And this is just the beginning |
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| Jake Raby |
Mar 1 2010, 09:24 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Engine kits start around 5K, you assemble them and sub-systems are extra.
Turn key complete engines are 10,500-13K up to 200 HP- dyno tuned and 100% complete. All our engines are different, to schedule a phone chat directly with me to discuss the best engine for your application email info@aircooledtechnology.com |
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| Randal |
Mar 1 2010, 11:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Mar 1 2010, 07:24 AM) Engine kits start around 5K, you assemble them and sub-systems are extra. Turn key complete engines are 10,500-13K up to 200 HP- dyno tuned and 100% complete. All our engines are different, to schedule a phone chat directly with me to discuss the best engine for your application email info@aircooledtechnology.com I think Joe said that he had $7,700 in parts in his motor plus labor. Mine was more as we ran fuel injection along with a billet crank, SCAT rods and specially built J&E pistons. We must have had over a grand just in fuel, oil lines and fittings in my motor.... plus of course lots of labor. And don't forget that the cost of the dyno work, i.e., mapping the fuel injection. But don't get discouraged by all the money; we built a race motor with the very best parts we could find, no expense spared. Jake has kits that will perform great for a lot less money, it just depends on what you are trying to do. BTW my motor has never been run over 6100 RPM's, but will be doing so shortly with the new dual valve springs that Len installed. On our initial dino runs it was pulling like a banshee when we had the valves float at 6100, but was still good for 201HP and 190 ft lbs of torque. I mean it was pulling like it wouldn't roll over until 8K, but again we never got there. Can wait to see what it'll do with the new valve springs. I kind of wonder where it will roll over?  |
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| J P Stein |
Mar 1 2010, 11:54 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Sure, Randal, you wait till I quit AXing the 914 before ya bring that thing out to play.
You are going to run it this season, eh? |
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| Randal |
Mar 1 2010, 12:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Mar 1 2010, 09:54 AM) Sure, Randal, you wait till I quit AXing the 914 before ya bring that thing out to play. You are going to run it this season, eh? I sure hope so JP. And by the way anytime I show up, where you are, you can take it through it's paces. Should be even more competitive now, with all the weight reductions, the ability to pull more RPMs and of course the JP cage fixes to stiffen the car. And the driver ... well we won't go into that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| HAM Inc |
Mar 2 2010, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
Randall those heads will really like the extra revs your going to get with the new springs! Not sure where it will nose over, but it will sure pull past 6100!
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| Randal |
Mar 2 2010, 06:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(HAM Inc @ Mar 2 2010, 03:35 PM) Randall those heads will really like the extra revs your going to get with the new springs! Not sure where it will nose over, but it will sure pull past 6100! We'll found out what'll she do very soon. And thanks again Len for all your help. Your the best! |
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| grantsfo |
Mar 2 2010, 07:54 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Randal @ Mar 1 2010, 10:03 AM) QUOTE(J P Stein @ Mar 1 2010, 09:54 AM) Sure, Randal, you wait till I quit AXing the 914 before ya bring that thing out to play. You are going to run it this season, eh? I sure hope so JP. And by the way anytime I show up, where you are, you can take it through it's paces. Should be even more competitive now, with all the weight reductions, the ability to pull more RPMs and of course the JP cage fixes to stiffen the car. And the driver ... well we won't go into that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Its exciting to hear 222 is coming back out with proper redline this time. It always pained me to see that car being shifted so many times. I knew you were making the most of it but it was one of the reasons the car wasnt meeting its AX potential. If you still have cantilever tires I wonder if lighter is going to help you much with our venues in the SF Bay Area? I think there is a reason why Andrew is experimenting with Hoosier A6's. Bill D is trying to go to them as well. You will be unbeatable on hot days or when you have a co-driver but anything less and I suspect you will have big heavy cars barking up your tailpipes. I got rid of the canti's on the Boxster in favor of much faster tire as well. Its going to be fun chasing you in the big hot 4 with a stock M96 powered race car. Have to love progress Porsche has made when I can buy a $2500 stock boxster motor and it puts out similar output to a full tilt professionally built race motor of similar displacement. My problem is I'm dragging around extra 600 lbs over that rocket of yours currently. On a seperate note. Jakes T4 motors deserve much better suspension and tire development as most 914's are not getting full potential of his motors to the ground with a slightly modified production 914 suspension. |
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| ME733 |
Mar 30 2010, 09:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 842 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Atlanta Ga. Member No.: 9,209 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Randal @ Mar 2 2010, 08:03 PM) QUOTE(HAM Inc @ Mar 2 2010, 03:35 PM) Randall those heads will really like the extra revs your going to get with the new springs! Not sure where it will nose over, but it will sure pull past 6100! We'll found out what'll she do very soon. And thanks again Len for all your help. Your the best! .....................In just a few days it will be 3months, since your posting , about your engine, ....looking forward to the update.....with new valve springs. |
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| ConeDodger |
Mar 30 2010, 09:19 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,578 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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Randal's engine and car look great and he is a heck of a driver... This should be an exciting year for him if he doesn't run out of gas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
See you at Santa Rosa next month Randal? |
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| Randal |
Mar 30 2010, 11:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Mar 30 2010, 08:19 AM) Randal's engine and car look great and he is a heck of a driver... This should be an exciting year for him if he doesn't run out of gas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) See you at Santa Rosa next month Randal? Might not make it next month, but am trying to get 222 back on the road. Santa Rosa is a great course, fun place to run, except for that go kart bit that can get a little crazy if you miss your lines. |
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| ME733 |
Mar 30 2010, 05:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 842 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Atlanta Ga. Member No.: 9,209 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(ME733 @ Mar 30 2010, 11:11 AM) QUOTE(Randal @ Mar 2 2010, 08:03 PM) QUOTE(HAM Inc @ Mar 2 2010, 03:35 PM) Randall those heads will really like the extra revs your going to get with the new springs! Not sure where it will nose over, but it will sure pull past 6100! We'll found out what'll she do very soon. And thanks again Len for all your help. Your the best! .....................In just a few days it will be 3months, since your posting , about your engine, ....looking forward to the update.....with new valve springs. ......................HOW ABOUT AN UPDATE on your jack raby engine, with new valve springs......... |
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| Randal |
Mar 30 2010, 05:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(ME733 @ Mar 30 2010, 04:19 PM) QUOTE(ME733 @ Mar 30 2010, 11:11 AM) QUOTE(Randal @ Mar 2 2010, 08:03 PM) QUOTE(HAM Inc @ Mar 2 2010, 03:35 PM) Randall those heads will really like the extra revs your going to get with the new springs! Not sure where it will nose over, but it will sure pull past 6100! We'll found out what'll she do very soon. And thanks again Len for all your help. Your the best! .....................In just a few days it will be 3months, since your posting , about your engine, ....looking forward to the update.....with new valve springs. ......................HOW ABOUT AN UPDATE on your jack raby engine, with new valve springs......... Just finishing up the new (end to end) cage, then will be putting the motor back in and taking it up to Santa Rosa to dyno. I'll post the results. BTW I think the car is going to be below 1600lbs, but we'll see. |
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| EdwardBlume |
Apr 5 2010, 11:33 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Wow... you and Grant are taking things to a whole new level.... should be fun to watch...
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