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BenNC |
Apr 5 2003, 11:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 140 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Cary, NC Member No.: 267 |
Hi folks, I need some help.
I just upgraded my '74 1.8L with a '73 2.0L engine. I transferred everything from the donor car with the exception of the fuel pump and the main wiring harness. The engine was running when I took it out of the donor, but of course not now. I'm not getting any fuel and I can't hear the pump when I have the ignition on. I do however hear a clicking noise from one of the relays when the power is on. I'm going to try the fuel pump from the '73, but I wanted to see what else I should check. Thanks, Ben |
SirAndy |
Apr 6 2003, 07:03 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,649 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
fuses. maybe a cable came lose while switching engines ...
check and see if the pump gets power, if yes, the pump is dead or you're out of fuel :-) also, i don't think the 2.0l and 1.8l pumps were the same, IIRC. |
BenNC |
Apr 6 2003, 07:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 140 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Cary, NC Member No.: 267 |
Thanks Andy.
Do you have any ideas about the clicking relay? It just doesn't sound right. |
Porsche Rescue |
Apr 6 2003, 10:36 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
My guess is that it is not the pump but a wiring issue. I believe the L-jet system in a 1.8 turns on the pump only with air flowing through the air flow meter while cranking. D-jet is powered with the ignition. If you have L-jet wiring/relays the pump is not turning on with ignition like it should on D-jet. Sorry, I don't know how to fix it (maybe just a hot wire from ignition to pump) but someone on this board will.
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Dave_Darling |
Apr 6 2003, 12:47 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
First, check the fuses on the relay board. Then make sure that the relays are installed. The D-jet EFI needs two of the relays to run, the L-jet needs none.
The D-jet ECU runs the fuel pump, by way of the fuel pump relay on the relay board. Which wiring harness did you not get? There are several on the car--the main body wiring harness, the alternator harness, the "engine" harness (mostly just the distributor wires and oil pressure sender wire), and the FI harness. You need the correct FI harness; I think you can swap the others around for the most part. (You may have to adapt some stuff if you use the "wrong" engine harness.) Bowlsby knows about the harnesses the best. --DD |
BenNC |
Apr 6 2003, 05:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 140 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Cary, NC Member No.: 267 |
The part that I kept is the portion coming from the firewall aft. All of the harnesses that were a part of the engine including the relay board came from the donor car.
Today I hard wired the pump and got nothing, so I'm working on that theory for now. I did some repairs to the wiring where it was fire damaged, so I don't have a lot of confidence in that either. Thanks |
gocubs914 |
Apr 7 2003, 11:08 PM
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gocubs914 Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 22-January 03 From: BHMALA Member No.: 183 |
have had my pump simply stiick. beat on it from inside the spare tire well.seriously! it has worked for me. or maybe i just had a bad ground.
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BenNC |
Apr 8 2003, 07:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 140 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Cary, NC Member No.: 267 |
I actually got the advice to try "percussive engineering" from a friend. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
Haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but that's next. |
Lawrence |
Apr 8 2003, 07:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,661 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 244 Region Association: None |
Hey Ben? A quick suggestion:
Pull the fuel pump, dry it off. Get some electrical leads and run 12v/ground right to the pump to see if it's working. I wouldn't run it more than a second or two with no fuel inside, though. -Rusty |
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