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> OT: Would you save it or part it?, Early 65 912 estate auction find
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post Mar 8 2010, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(kwales @ Mar 8 2010, 01:36 PM) *

If you want to drive it, then by all means fix it and enjoy.

If you don't want to do that, then sell it to somebody who wants to fix it.

Don't part it out.


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post Mar 8 2010, 12:43 PM
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IIRC, the cranks are worth a bit of coin. I personally think it should be saved, whether by you or someone else. It's going to take a LOT of work, but the 912 crowd is almost as rabid about their cars as we are about ours. Post it over on the 912 board (http://912bbs.org) and see what reaction you get.
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post Mar 8 2010, 01:54 PM
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I'll add... I agree with the eBay theory unless you have about $50-60k to restore it properly and you want to keep it.

It's a basket case and needs to go all the way down to a stripped tub and be brought back to life.

The problem with a 65 912 is, it's just as expensive to restore as a 65 911. One will net you more money in the end. Parts for the SWB cars are hard to find and expensive when you do. Some resellers won't even answer your e-amil unless they know the part is going on a 10pt restoration.

Sure is a beautiful car though.
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post Mar 8 2010, 02:46 PM
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I have to listen to reason and I just dont have the passion to put it back together. My Passion is 914s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I am going to at least get it running and maybe drivable and and probably throw it on ebay.
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post Mar 8 2010, 03:12 PM
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I agree - do not part it!

Either keep it and restore or sell it to someone looking to get covered in rust dust and welding splatter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Between the 912 and the engine you sure won't lose money - unless you decide to restore it yourself.

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post Mar 8 2010, 06:58 PM
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Don't part it

Someone will give you a $1000 for it
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post Mar 8 2010, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(qa1142 @ Mar 8 2010, 05:58 PM) *

Don't part it

Someone will give you a $1000 for it

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much more than that. You should put it on e bay with a good description and then all of us can sit back and watch the bid go up and up. maybe I would even be interested in bidding on it AND the engine!!!!!!
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post Mar 8 2010, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(agentblr @ Mar 8 2010, 12:46 PM) *

I am going to at least get it running and maybe drivable and and probably

I wouldn't.

Like George said, just give it a good cleaning, come up with a detailed and honest description and throw it on eBay. Include tons of pictures.

The sit back and watch ...
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post Mar 8 2010, 07:20 PM
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If you take even a single step towards fixing anything, you're losing money/profit.

Either go all in and do the whole project, or pass the torch and don't bother throwing money and time at something you're just going to sell.
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post Mar 8 2010, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 8 2010, 05:17 PM) *

QUOTE(agentblr @ Mar 8 2010, 12:46 PM) *

I am going to at least get it running and maybe drivable and and probably

I wouldn't.

Like George said, just give it a good cleaning, come up with a detailed and honest description and throw it on eBay. Include tons of pictures.

The sit back and watch ...
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post Mar 8 2010, 07:37 PM
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Yeah I have to agree....I figured at least running it would bring more$$ but I'd be kidding myself,this thing has been outside since at least 1990. The 22 year old son said he never saw it move. Hell I don't even have a key for it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) and you know the engine tin is full of rat nest along with every wire chewed to shreds.
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post Mar 8 2010, 07:43 PM
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The best way to save this car is to find a rusted out pos and transfer all of the useable parts. It can be done save it.
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post Mar 8 2010, 07:45 PM
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I agree with selling without much labor. Just enough labor to clean it up more to make it more presentable so people can see what they are getting under all the dirt. Make sure the engine turns over and describe it as such but I would not bother with getting it running. That adds to the charm as lots of buyers want to be the ultimate savior and bring life into it themselves (kind of a bragging right once the resto is done).
List the serial number on the pre-A engine (under the generator starting with *P-xxxxx), I used to have a pre-A that I sold after my resto and always was curious where the engine ended up. You can never tell where it may turn up, so just wondering.
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post Mar 9 2010, 08:49 AM
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.............Well ....heres how I see it..., first off the pre-A engine is almost worthless in reality, as there are VERY few 356 people restoring pre A cars....the parts are just about impossable to find...and absurdly expensive when you do..BUT engines are pleantful if you know where to go....Then about the 912...IF the engine will rotate...it MAY have a value of $750-to $1500.,...problem is some ones buying a pig -in a poke. a real gamble that anything inside the case is useable......In my opinion the car is toast. when you finally get the massive globs of undercoating off...you will discover RUST lots of rust. rust is obviously every where and it shows. You will spend yourself into the poorhouse restoring it...Remember that the early 912,s and 911,s ..up to 1973-I THINK..did not have galvanized bodies or panels.., that car is history. there may be some parts that have some value...The early 912,s had a four speed transmission...Most 912 car guys want the later model 5) five speed....do YOURSELF a favor a sell it for a small profit and let that car be someone elses nightmare to deal with. AND how about this....ALL those guys who have commented, in this posting.. about how wonderful, great and possably PROFITABLE to restore that car is ..should just SNAP IT up. sell it to THEM....let THEM attempt to restore it....anyone restoring it will be so upside down in that car that slamming their NADS in a door jamb 1000 times will will be a RELIEF from the agony of the restoration, and financial disaster..........well this is just my honest opinion....MURRAY.
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post Mar 9 2010, 09:34 AM
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the 912 needs to be saved and meticulously restored... that said, not many people would have that kind of resources, so selling it would be 100% understood. I love 912s as much as 911s and 914s.
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post Mar 9 2010, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(zambezi @ Mar 8 2010, 05:45 PM) *

List the serial number on the pre-A engine (under the generator starting with *P-xxxxx), I used to have a pre-A that I sold after my resto and always was curious where the engine ended up. You can never tell where it may turn up, so just wondering.
JIM

Yep, worry more about that Pre-A motor...that sucker could be worth a lot to the right buyer. Look into that one.
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