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| pbanders |
 Mar 11 2010, 08:52 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 939 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 805  |
As I mentioned in another thread, make sure to check out the Bosch Automotive Traditions web site at:
http://www.automotive-tradition.com/en/start/index.htm It's not cheap, but many hard-to-find parts are available there. They will also rebuild your AAR and MPS for you with Bosch parts, and calibrated to Bosch standards. No idea of how much that costs (think "expensive"). Just saw where they are selling the trigger contact points that George Hussey said Bosch is discontinuing from their regular product line. They also have all three types of fuel injectors. |
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| jk76.914 |
Mar 11 2010, 09:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 3,925 Region Association: North East States |
Just got my quote back from Herr Klumpp. See below.
Jim (cut and pasted from email below) Hello, Jim! I have an update: We will be able to refurbish the MPS on the 1st of April - and this is no April fool hoax. ;-) Price will be 349 EUR for your MPS, 19% sales tax are included. Be aware that you may have to pay duty fee. If interested, please send your defective MPS (including accompanying letter) to my hands: Robert Bosch GmbH Matthias Klumpp (AA/ATR) Auf der Breit 4 76227 Karlsruhe Germany I will then forward the MPS to our plant which does the refurbishing. They will check whether the MPS is repairable or not. If not you will get your MPS back without any costs. If it's repairable you need to pay the refurbishing costs by buying an eBay item and paying it via PayPal or bank transfer. Once repaired I will do a last quick check on it and forward it back to you. Transportation will be done with TNT Express to keep transportation times as low as possible. Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Matthias Klumpp Robert Bosch GmbH Automotive Tradition (AA/ATR2) Postfach 41 09 60 76225 Karlsruhe GERMANY http://www.bosch.com http://www.automotive-tradition.de http://stores.ebay.de/Bosch-Klassik-Teilevermittlung Telefon: +49 721 942-1660 Fax: +49 721 942-2000 Automotive-Tradition@de.bosch.com Sign up for newsletter: http://www.automotive-tradition.com/de/newsletter/index.htm -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: noreply@kittelberger.de [mailto:noreply@kittelberger.de] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. März 2010 11:50 An: Automotive -Tradition (AA/ATR) Betreff: 1:1 Instandsetzung - Air-flow sensor, Kelly, James Anrede: Mr. Name: Kelly Vorname: James E-Mail-Adresse: jkelly2973@comcast.net Erzeugnis: Air-flow sensor Teilenummer: 0 280 100 049 Nachricht: Please quote 1:1 remanufacturing for this MPS for 1976 Porsche 914 2.0. Thank you. |
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| tod914 |
Mar 11 2010, 09:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
I wonder what they consider repairable and non repairable. If a broken diaphram falls into the repairable catagory, $500.00 is better than $1300.00
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| pbanders |
Mar 11 2010, 10:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 939 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 805 |
Did you see any kind of warranty on this work from Bosch?
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| jk76.914 |
Mar 12 2010, 05:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 3,925 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(pbanders @ Mar 11 2010, 11:32 PM)  Did you see any kind of warranty on this work from Bosch? No. I will reply with two questions- 1. warranty. 2. is broken diaphram considered reparaible. He responds very quickly. I'll may have an answer by tonight. |
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| jk76.914 |
Mar 12 2010, 05:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 3,925 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(jk76.914 @ Mar 12 2010, 06:05 AM) QUOTE(pbanders @ Mar 11 2010, 11:32 PM) Did you see any kind of warranty on this work from Bosch? No. I will reply with two questions- 1. warranty. 2. is broken diaphram considered reparaible. He responds very quickly. I'll may have an answer by tonight. Got an "out of office" reply from Matthias. He took today off. So we won't hear until Monday. Jim |
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| johannes |
Mar 12 2010, 06:04 AM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
Buy an item on ebay ?
WOW a Bosch shop on ebay ? http://stores.shop.ebay.de/Bosch-Klassik-T...g__W0QQ_armrsZ1 |
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| johannes |
Mar 12 2010, 06:15 AM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
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| 914Sixer |
Mar 12 2010, 06:46 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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The prices are absurd in my opinion for the parts listed on ebay. Fuel pressure regulators are still under $40 from my sources. 1.7, 1.8 fuel injectors are under $50 right now and on sale.
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| ericread |
Mar 12 2010, 08:39 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(johannes @ Mar 12 2010, 04:15 AM) The eBay page is writen in some crazy language!!! I can't understand a thing that's written. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) You'd think Bosche would know how to write an eBay ad in a civilized language!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| Katmanken |
Mar 12 2010, 08:55 AM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
That's sacrilage- admitting that you can't read the language of the German Elves that built our beloved 914 ...
I can't either, but google translator does. |
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| 914four |
Mar 12 2010, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 4-March 07 From: Rainbow City, Alabama Member No.: 7,582 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(914Sixer @ Mar 12 2010, 06:46 AM) The prices are absurd in my opinion for the parts listed on ebay. Fuel pressure regulators are still under $40 from my sources. 1.7, 1.8 fuel injectors are under $50 right now and on sale. What are your sources? |
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| krazykonrad |
Mar 13 2010, 10:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,126 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 5,610 |
Thanks for posting this! This will be great resource for those hard-to-find parts.
Konrad |
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| jk76.914 |
Mar 18 2010, 02:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 3,925 Region Association: North East States |
Got my reply from Matthias:
Hello, Jim! At present we check the coil and the aneroid capsule. If both are okay we assume that they won't fail - otherwise we won't be able to refurbish the MPS. We definitely exchange the diaphragm. You know we are starting with this process now. If we find out that coil and capsule do fail very often we will search for a solution. Woops, forgot about the warranty. Warranty is given as it would be a new part. Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Matthias Klumpp |
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| tod914 |
Mar 18 2010, 07:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
That's great news. At least there is a source for the diaphrams.
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| Brett W |
Mar 18 2010, 07:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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So I see that BOsch will fix the parts, but what is the point beyond keeping an archaic FI design operational? For the price of keeping the Djet alive you could move to a more modern digital fuel injection system that would make more power, be more drivable, and give better emissions. Plus parts are much cheaper.
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| JeffBowlsby |
Mar 18 2010, 11:24 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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That line of thinking is a distoration, a misconception and misleading for most 914 owners. If you are customizing a race car or doing 914s as hobby in your free time or have some extreme performance goals, then thats a different matter. To each his own.
Realistically, price out a complete install of a good quality, time proven modern EFI system - everything included, the research and tuning to make it work, the hardware changes, the new components you need to buy, and to fabricate the adaptations...and include the market value of your time. You will discover it is in the $1000s of dollars. A $300. MS box that you assemble yourself is not the end of the story. When the 'updated' EFI install breaks, you need to fix it yourself, no one else will want to touch it. Where is the benefit of that? Compare that to just maintaining the stock D-Jet. Each part is available somewhere, and lasts a long time. A few hundred dollars now and then for a worn out part, is not unreaslistic in the long run. I have driven a stock D-jet 2.0L for 12 years now. Daily, with no problems and very little attention or maintenance. I can even send it to a shop if needed..its a simple system. The only reason to change to a newer EFI is if the D-Jet parts sources completely dry up or if you have some other performance needs that the stock D-jet cannot handle. QUOTE(Brett W @ Mar 18 2010, 06:56 AM) So I see that BOsch will fix the parts, but what is the point beyond keeping an archaic FI design operational? For the price of keeping the Djet alive you could move to a more modern digital fuel injection system that would make more power, be more drivable, and give better emissions. Plus parts are much cheaper. |
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| bcaschera |
Mar 18 2010, 01:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 1-October 09 From: san jose Member No.: 10,873 Region Association: None |
just an FYI , I recently visited HPhouse in Redwood city Ca. The owner; Rich Bontempi has been building and restoring 914 since they were new and has an UN-EFFING_REAL amount of OE parts in stock. I recommend giving him a call for any stock FI parts. He ships and is more than willing to give advise, when i stopped by the shop a couple of weeks ago he gave me a full tour of his three story FULLY stocked warehouse, I cant even think of a part i did not see or hear him mention was down some isle. Great Resourse for any Porsche part.
High Performance House (650) 364-6234 2431 Spring st. Redwood City Ca 94063 HighPerformanceHouse.com Check it out |
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