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| Dr Evil |
 Apr 20 2010, 06:18 PM
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Send me your transmission!  Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Looks like rat poison and acorns (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)
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| mepstein |
Apr 20 2010, 08:50 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,963 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Scott - I picked up the new (old) side shifter trans today. Will bring to Hershey. Also a bunch of trim kind of stuff. Great looking front turn signal housings and rear brake housings with lenses. Some alum trim, extra lenses, Interior trim, porsche script, ect. Even a box of parts that he wouldn't let me open until I got home. I have no idea what's in it. But he only charges me $50 for the trans and $60 for all the parts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'll post a picture in the am.
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| mepstein |
Apr 21 2010, 01:53 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,963 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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| Dr Evil |
Apr 21 2010, 10:54 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Always a good sign when they cut the shift rod and leave the nub in the selector console (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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| mepstein |
Apr 22 2010, 04:57 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,963 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I don't know if you are kidding me or not? See you Sat.
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| zymurgist |
Apr 22 2010, 05:14 AM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(scotty b @ Apr 20 2010, 08:16 PM)  Heh. I'm still finding acorns in the Yamaha every time I take another part off it. |
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| plas76targa |
Apr 22 2010, 09:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Frederick, MD Member No.: 1,700 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Is it remarkable those varmints can get in between the transmission and the engine?
Also remarkable that Marks car looked nice before Scott started sanding - frightening what can be hidden under paint! It's on the way to looking good now! Mepstein - someone near Philly was selling superlights about two months ago perhaps they're still available. |
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| Dr Evil |
Apr 22 2010, 10:03 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Apr 22 2010, 06:57 AM) I don't know if you are kidding me or not? See you Sat. Not kidding, but I have replacements. |
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| matteyp |
May 29 2010, 12:16 PM
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Nothing a little JB Weld can't fix... Group: Members Posts: 263 Joined: 8-June 09 From: WA Member No.: 10,450 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have that same vent in my 71..
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2010, 06:25 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
SOOOOOooooo things get uglier. I was talking to Mark today and I think sometime soon. I am going to try and sit down and write an article about what to look for when you purchase or go to restore an already purchased car. Basically what has transpired, is the car WELL PATCHED car. I have now uncoverd the worst parts yet. Whne I get to the article I will include more pics then what I am going to post here, but these should give you all some idea of what I am going to get into more detail of.
If you go back in this thread you will see where I noted some areas of concern. Well those have now been found out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This all began yesterday as I prepared to cut out the rotted floorpan section. The first thing I noticed was the funky area along the back edge of the pan, turned out to be where the pan was cut open on 3 sides with a screwdriver or chisel, that piece was folded down so the " repair " could be done, then the piece was pushed back up and the gap was filled with RTV. NO welding at all !!! Attached image(s)     
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2010, 06:29 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Before I went any further with the pan, I dug into the jack post and longitudinal since I already knew there were issues there. I pulled the sill plate on the drivers door, to uncover the next super fantastic "repair " (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) The old bondo over a rust hole trick (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) Then I started cutting the rot out to see what lay beneath (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2010, 06:38 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Having found more previous hatchery I then went to the pass side to do some REAL exploration and it got really nasty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) I had to reserve pics because my camera was getting loaded, so I haven't taken shots of how far I got, but will have more this weekend.
On the pass side I cut out the obvious and then started poking the long with a screwdriver. A slight tap from a hammer one the butt end told me all I needed to know. Mind you all of this LOOKED perfectly fine, and a gentle tap SEEMED pe4rfectly fine. A little more force proved otherwise. Before I took this first pic there was only about a 2" sectiopn at the botom of the jack post. The other holes were NOT there. They are the results of the tapping. The 3rd pic is looking in the long towards the rear, and the nasty spot that later gets worse is the backside of the engine mount. You will also note the spot I am pointing to with the screwdriver is the passenger side SEAT BELT MOUNT!! I and others have stressed before this section of rot from the hell hole is NOT to be taken lightly. If you don;t feel very confident in tackling it DON'T !! Your wife or kids well being could be at stake. !! This is not somewhere to take shortcuts either, not only for the obvious seat belt issue, but this is a integral part of the cars structure. Attached image(s)    
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2010, 06:43 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Now that I have seen the spot behind the engine mount I went into the engine bay to take a closer look and saw this " patch" The next shot of the insdide of the long is after about 45 seconds of poking with a long screwdriver. No hammer, just a screwdriver and my hand. I then noticed the holes in the engine shelf were a little odd looking so upon further inspection I see that 2-3 sections from different cars had been welded together ( pretty poorly ) and had been wiped with bondo and painted. Then comes the hole.............
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| Eric_Shea |
Jun 2 2010, 06:49 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,304 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
(four mounts come off for a six installation anyway...) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2010, 06:49 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Hell......
Looks pretty good right ??? Knocked on it with a screwdriver and it felt and sounded pretty good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) BUT then I started scraping it a bit and under what SHOULD have been dirt and paint was (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Black undercoating ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Say it isn't so PLEASE !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Then the real cute one. The first pic is just a funnny looking spot on the side of the re[placement battery tray support. The dipshits didn;t even bother to remove the label before painting it. So I did it for them......23 years later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Then I lifted up the battery tray to find what they didn't even bother trying to hide (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Attached image(s)       
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2010, 06:59 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
The lesson here is no matter what you were told, no matter how much that APPEARS to be true. ALWAYS verify before leaping.
I post these to show people what happens when your car goes into a reputable shop, and why estimates are just that ESTIMATES. I was fooled by several of these spots, the floor pan being the first. Mark was told the car had been restored, it sat in an enclosed garage for many years, when he brought it to me and told me it had beenr estored and I looked under it, it all looked great except for a few little spots here and there. I immediately proceeded with installing his flares thinking all I would have to do rust wise was the jack points. Now I am going to have to cut sections of the new flares out, at no cost to Mark, to be able repair all of this previous handywork (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). Neither Marks fault nor mine, but part of the process that adds up unexpectedly. So far ALL of the repairs I have done on this car have been previously " repaired " spots that continued to rust, with the exception of the floor pan under the drivers seat. Since these pics, I have cut out all of the drivers side, I stopped on the passengers until I can get the integity back into the drivers side, then I will go further into the passengers. I have taken Mikes wreck and cut most of what I need for the drivers side repairs out of it, and will proceed with that tomorrow and friday. Longs will be cleaned as best as I can get them, sprayed with ospho, and then will get a coat of paint before I close them back up. |
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2010, 07:07 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jun 2 2010, 04:49 PM) four mounts stay on for a Raby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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| mepstein |
Jun 2 2010, 07:41 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,963 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I was not thrilled to get Scott's phone call today but really not all that surprised. Since it was the professional shop that "restored" the car also switched the vin. But the good news is that Scott has the skills to make the car right again. Never doubted for a moment that taking my car to him was the right thing to do. Just need to work a bit harder and sell some more houses. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I think there are alot more cars than mine that are driving around with some severe rust issues that stay hidden up to a point. Cant wait to get the rust monster behind us and see Scott spray on some shiny red paint!
Raby 2270 is still the plan. I bought Jake's video and started to tear the motor down. Haven't ordered the kit yet (yes, I'm building it myself) because I wanted to have some extra $ just in case something like this happened. I'd rather be engine-less for a bit than not have funds to finish the car the way I want. Maybe someone local with have a spare motor I can put-put around with until the big motor is ready? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| iamchappy |
Jun 2 2010, 07:53 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
This is beginning to look like Veltror's rustoration thread.
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| rick 918-S |
Jun 2 2010, 08:05 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 21,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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Man! I always hated when that happened! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Fortunately you have a good customer Scotty.
I had a guy wig out in my shop one day and fake a heart attack when I told him how much extra it was going to cost him to fix some other shops hack. We uncovered 4 area's that were foam filled, covered with plastic filler and painted over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I just stared at him until he calmed down. Then he swore at me and accused me of faking the hack. I was begining to think he had turrets the way he went off on me. After this went on for about 45 minutes he was fine with the added cost and more than happy with the car. A couple years later he came back with another car. All smiles and talking about how cool it was to cruise in his big bird! (black and gold Trans Am) We politely declined the work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) BTW: Please write an article with lots of photos and put it in the classic forum. |
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