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Fuel Tank - pretty nice one, But...... |
Pat Garvey |
Mar 23 2010, 08:17 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Some of you may be aware that I have a tank problem - a bad one! My gorgeous original tank (outside) is pretty much shot inside.
So I got another tank. Been in storage for years with preservative (?) in it that kept rusts away. USPS wouldn't let the PO ship it with the preservative in it, as it was considered HAZMAT. So, he flushed it with Simple Green several times before it was deemed acceptable. Now it has a very fine film of iron oxide on the inside. Outside was a pleb attempt at resto, but I can fix that. So...what should I use on the inside of the tank to remove the minimal oxidation? And, what should I use to seal it on the inside? I'd prefer NOT to use POR15. What did the Factory use? Need to get going on this - Fritz MUST rise THIS year! Pat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
tod914 |
Mar 23 2010, 08:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Pat either get the kit from Bill Hirsch or use the POR marine clean & metal ready. Another option is muriatic acid followed by metal ready. Just using one of the cleaners will give you the same end result. Flash rust. The metal ready will coat it to keep it from doing so, for a while. You'll want to flush each treatment with cold water. The Hirsch kit will clean the tank and line it with a rubbery style bladder adheared to the tank wall. Will never chip. Had that done to my 75 and was very pleased with the results. I actually have an unused can of it if you need it.
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Tom_T |
Mar 23 2010, 09:12 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Pat - don't know why George didn't mention it, but IIRC his AA shop will do a resto on tanks for you - & assume they mean inside & out (was in the catalog).
If I were in your shoes - & wallowing in Bluto Bucks! - I'd send the tank you have as a core & get a newly refreshed one back to install right now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
kconway |
Mar 23 2010, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California |
I used a kit from a company named KBS Coatings. It came with a cleaner, an acid etch and then a coating for the inside. Worked pretty well.
http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Gold-Standard-...ns_ep_39-1.html Kev |
Dr Evil |
Mar 23 2010, 10:34 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you decide that you want it sealed, there is a shop in Palmyra that will use an epoxy sealer for $50.
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Mr.242 |
Mar 24 2010, 01:11 AM
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May your glass be smaller so it's always FULL! Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 9,160 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I used a kit from a company named KBS Coatings. It came with a cleaner, an acid etch and then a coating for the inside. Worked pretty well. http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Gold-Standard-...ns_ep_39-1.html Kev I did this route too. Still not in the car, but looks great inside. |
EdwardBlume |
Mar 24 2010, 06:57 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
How many concours judges stick their fiberoptic cameras inside the gas tank? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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jd74914 |
Mar 24 2010, 07:14 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Caswell Plating makes the best gas tank sealer kit I have seen or used (as another reference McMark thinks its the best too). It is an epoxy rather than the tradition paint-like coating, covers really well, and is tough as nails. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm |
Phoenix-MN |
Mar 24 2010, 07:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
I used a kit from a company named KBS Coatings. It came with a cleaner, an acid etch and then a coating for the inside. Worked pretty well. http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Gold-Standard-...ns_ep_39-1.html Kev I did this route too. Still not in the car, but looks great inside. I also used the KBS kit. It worked very well. |
Mr.242 |
Mar 24 2010, 08:15 AM
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May your glass be smaller so it's always FULL! Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 9,160 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
A semi-hijack....what sheen should be on the outside when painting the tank? |
McMark |
Mar 24 2010, 11:21 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with Jim D. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Frost |
Mar 24 2010, 12:54 PM
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Frost Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Houston,TX Member No.: 9,035 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That seems like a fairly easy proceedure to do.
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tod914 |
Mar 24 2010, 03:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Mr., the VHT low gloss black engine enamel or VHT semi gloss engine enamel work well. The original color is abit more of a grey-black, but either of those two should be fine. I used the low gloss on mine which is slightly more matt than the semi. Put a coat of wax on it and it turned out real nice. I used a hair drier pointing in the fuel hole to heat up the paint to help cure it along with some heat lamps.
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Pat Garvey |
Mar 24 2010, 06:41 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Pat either get the kit from Bill Hirsch or use the POR marine clean & metal ready. Another option is muriatic acid followed by metal ready. Just using one of the cleaners will give you the same end result. Flash rust. The metal ready will coat it to keep it from doing so, for a while. You'll want to flush each treatment with cold water. The Hirsch kit will clean the tank and line it with a rubbery style bladder adheared to the tank wall. Will never chip. Had that done to my 75 and was very pleased with the results. I actually have an unused can of it if you need it. Tod, tell me more about this process - lots more. Need step-by-step infor, since I'm an "old person", but sounds good. Can PM me, but I think others might benefit from it. Pat |
Pat Garvey |
Mar 24 2010, 06:45 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Pat - don't know why George didn't mention it, but IIRC his AA shop will do a resto on tanks for you - & assume they mean inside & out (was in the catalog). If I were in your shoes - & wallowing in Bluto Bucks! - I'd send the tank you have as a core & get a newly refreshed one back to install right now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Gave some thought to that. The shipping costs alone would be horrendous (to & from) & don't think I'd like George's color choice - shouldn't be black. No, I'll take care of this here. The Bluto bucks are earmarked by the way. Pat |
Pat Garvey |
Mar 24 2010, 06:47 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
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Pat Garvey |
Mar 24 2010, 06:52 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Mr., the VHT low gloss black engine enamel or VHT semi gloss engine enamel work well. The original color is abit more of a grey-black, but either of those two should be fine. I used the low gloss on mine which is slightly more matt than the semi. Put a coat of wax on it and it turned out real nice. I used a hair drier pointing in the fuel hole to heat up the paint to help cure it along with some heat lamps. Damned good idea about the hair dryer! At least on a 72, the paint should be (estimated) 50-50 gloss black & gloss gray! Yep it's a glossy finish, and half gray. Can provide pics if necessary. Just don't look inside! Pat |
tod914 |
Mar 24 2010, 07:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Pat I picked up a can of the VW grey black & dove grey from wolfsburg west. The grey black might be what your looking for. I did a test and it's too grey for the engine tin, etc. If you want it, it's yours. I just don't know how well it will hold up to gas. Which stands the reason I'm having my intake runners powder coated dove grey with a flattener so remove the shine. I'll post the results when I get it back.
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tod914 |
Mar 24 2010, 07:31 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Here's the VHT low gloss black if you want to see what it looks like. Blended in real nice with the original paint. The semi gloss also seems to be abit more of a deeper black.
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Frost |
Mar 24 2010, 09:59 PM
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Frost Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Houston,TX Member No.: 9,035 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Man that looks pretty!
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